13 thoughts on “The Lunatic Left

  1. My dear, if you cannot understand the moral legitimacy of self defense, or that people have a right to freedom of expression and peaceful assembly, I am afraid you are too far gone to have an intelligent discussion with.

    Please go back to the liars and slanderers on your blog. You’ll feel much more at home there, I am sure.

  2. “if you cannot understand the moral legitimacy of self defense, or that people have a right to freedom of expression and peaceful assembly”

    what was the middle part?

    KEvron

  3. What about people like myself who have serious medical issues that are successfully treated with birth control? Procreation isn’t even an issue here. I’m just trying to keep myself well and healthy.

  4. Dear Ms. X,

    1. The Church does not oppose natural methods of family planning, provided that the couple is open to children everytime they have sex even though the chances might be remote in conceiving.

    2. The Church is opposed to ARTIFICIAL methods only. There are many sound reasons for this – theologically, scientifically, and sociologically.

    3. The Church does NOT oppose use of hormonal birth control pills, for instance, when the INTENT is for other legitimate health related issues and NOT for contraception. Neither is the person morally culpable when, in taking such medication, it renders the chance of procreation more remote.

    “15. On the other hand, the Church does not consider at all illicit the use of those therapeutic means necessary to cure bodily diseases, even if a foreseeable impediment to procreation should result there from—provided such impediment is not directly intended for any motive whatsoever. (19) ”

    Source: Humanae Vitae
    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae_en.html

  5. By the way, Miss X, just so that I am clear:

    1) There is no problem in your particular case.

    2) Since most birth control pills are abortificaents,

    see: http://www.catholic-legate.com/?p=947

    we no longer can say that using the pill even for medical reasons is a legitimate option when intercourse is happening. The fear, of course, is not the prevention of pregnancy but that an abortion might have been committed.

  6. Thank you for responding. Pregnancy is no longer a concern. I have three children but my last two were very difficult pregnancies (one of them was a placental abruption and we almost lost the baby) so my husband had surgery to prevent another pregnancy after our third child was born. The pills I’m using are exclusively taken for health reasons.

  7. Miss X (Upyours@yahoo.com),

    As I said, taking hormonal birth control pills can now be considered morally problematic since it might result in an abortion.

    In your case, since your husband was castrated, this is not an immediate concern.

    However, the question of your husband’s castration is another matter entirely.

    While a vascectomy might provide slightly better prevention results than natural family planning, there are other serious medical consequences to it that your husband has chosen to accept.

    That’s unfortunate since, with a little discipline and study, recourse to unnatural methods of family planning and organ mutilation would have been entirely unnecessary.

    Let’s hope he doesn’t contract dementia or a host of other problems.

    I found this website particularly interesting:

    http://dontfixit.org/

    I happen to think that prostate cancer is a direct result of contraceptives and sterilization.

    Hope this helps.

  8. You are very poorly informed. Castration is removal of the testicles and my husband still has his. It has been years since his procedure and he has not suffered any of the ill effects you mentioned, either – nor has any other man we know who has elected to have a vasectomy. It would help to check out a site with true information in it, rather than base your opinions on one that feeds false information to readers based upon a religious agenda.

    http://www.minorprocedures.com/Vasectomy.htm

  9. >>You are very poorly informed. Castration is removal of the testicles and my husband still has his.

    + I realize that. I do have a basic knowledge of what a vasectomy is. I only used “castration” for dramatic effect. 🙂 But I do appreciate the remedial lesson in biology, for sure!

    >>It has been years since his procedure and he has not suffered any of the ill effects you mentioned, either – nor has any other man we know who has elected to have a vasectomy.

    + Really? That’s not what I’ve been reading about. There are lots of places on the internet where men are complaining about vasectomies. Here’s one of them.

    http://www.malehealth.co.uk/userpage1.cfm?item_id=2392

    >>It would help to check out a site with true information in it, rather than base your opinions on one that feeds false information to readers based upon a religious agenda.

    I see. So if you accept “true information” from scientific sources, then I’ll assume that you accept the oral contraceptive-breast cancer link or the abortion-breast cancer link?

    On the other hand, that link I sent you was not “religious”. It was simply a testimony of someone who has suffered from a vasectomy. The great majority of the evidence I present is from bona fide scientific sources.

    I found this story rather interesting. I am sure you’ll dismiss it, however, since it’s a Catholic publication reporting on some scientific opinion regarding a vasectomy.

    http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=24972&page=1

    Just like oral contraceptives and abortion and their link to breast cancer, it took a long time for the scientific community to finally admit to the link.

    Much of what poses as “science” today is bankrolled by large pharmaceutical companies and Planned Parenthood — at least where contentious “reproductive services” are concerned.

    But, you know, ignorance is bliss. Carry on.

  10. “But, you know, ignorance is bliss. Carry on.”

    You should know, seeing as you base your judgements upon such ridiculous sources. Unlike you, I have personal knowledge of what goes on in the scientific community and your assertions are laughably false.

    I see no point in discussing this with you any further.

    Trying to teach a fundy to think is like trying to teach a pig to sing; you don’t accomplish anything and it annoys the pig.

  11. I’ll let my wife who has a B.Sc.(Biology) and M.Sc.(Pathology) know that someone who has an email address like “upyours@yahoo.com” wants to teach her about science.

    Oh, and I’ll be sure to tell the National Cancer Institute or the Mayo Clinic that they’re really not qualified to give an opinion on such things. After all, they must be “fundamentalists” too.

    Thanks for stopping by and confirming me in my efforts.

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