Michael Coren: Sodom may well be about heterosexual rape of boys, not consensual sodomy


“Nobody believes the story of Sodom refers to consensual homosexuality any more and Jesus never mentions the subject. He does, however, repeatedly condemn judging oth
ers and – oh yes divorce. Quite a lot of both in Christian circles these days. (St) Paul’s writing may well refer to the use of young boys by adult heterosexual men and not adult, gay partnerships. Thing is, we need to discuss all this and not just smugly point fingers.” (Source)

Seriously.  No, really. He said that. That’s from his Facebook page today, plugging his article “I was wrong”. Nobody believes the story of Sodom refers to consensual homosexuality?  Uh, your Church does, Michael. In fact, no serious theologian before the sexual revolution thought or wrote otherwise. “Nobody believes, nobody believes”?  What is this, some kind of massive fraud that you are trying to perpetrate, Michael? This is so sad, but the alarm bells have been sounding for some time about Mr. Coren.  I think this fire drill clears out the building. I don’t think Mike quite gets it:  STERILIZED SEX IS CONDEMNED IN THE BIBLE IN ALL ITS FORMS. That’s why Mr. Coren won’t answer my question about Humanae Vitae.  He won’t do it, because his jig would be up. The problem with giving Michael Coren a Catholic megaphone is that he doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about.  Please don’t help spread his errors in the Catholic community.

p.s. Under Coren’s rubric of St. Paul condemning heterosexual rape of boys, I guess the only orientation on the outs are the bi-sexuals, for all intents and purposes.  Or, perhaps, heterosexuals who rape boys should have their own orientation too.  After all, we wouldn’t want to discriminate, would we?   Mr. Coren’s view of sexual sin simply consists in ensuring that all parties consent…then there’s no problem.  But that is hardly the Catholic view…because GOD does not consent.

14 thoughts on “Michael Coren: Sodom may well be about heterosexual rape of boys, not consensual sodomy

  1. Looks like Michael Coren is making it up as he goes along. No one who calls himself a Christian, let alone Catholic, can construe the destruction of Sodom to merely homosexual rape, but to the practice of homosexuality, period. God does not change and referring to Leviticus and other books of the bible, God likens homosexuality to an abomination. Pretty clear isn’t it? Further, when Jesus is questioned about the legitimacy of divorce given by Moses (Matthew 19) he responds by saying from the beginning God created them male and female and for this reason a man shall be joined to his wife and the two become one flesh – in this context homosexuality is not even a possibility. Besides when it comes to sin, Our Lord raised the bar, didn’t lower it – I refer to him declaring that a man who even looks at a woman with lust in his heart has already committed adultery. Michael Coren needs to repent and fall in line with Christ and His Church, or leave and join a more sin-friendly sect.

  2. “God does not change and referring to Leviticus and other books of the bible, God likens homosexuality to an abomination. Pretty clear isn’t it?”

    Clear? Hardly. Where is the evidence “GOD” really exists? Wjere is the evidence he/she/it had absolutely ANYTHING to do with who recorded human writings?

    No “god” does not change because realistically he’s simply an idea and not an entity that exists at all. Ever honestly think that might be the simpler truth?

    • Your defensiveness speaks volumes – you can try and justify homosexuality by denying God or the natural order exist. But male and female are the only 2 sexes created – their biology is complementary for a reason. Homosexuality is unnatural – the human species would be all but extinct if homosexuality were the norm. Not to mention AIDS and other sexually-transmitted diseases wreaking havoc. You are a child of God, made in His image and He loves you more than you could ever know. Where do you honestly think your lifestyle will take you?

  3. Sodomy is extremely unhealthy, and ought never to have been legalized ,and considered a human right. Schoolchildren should not be recruited into believing unhealthy behavior is normal,by adult teachers and homosexual activists. It causes diseases that lead to a mechanical dysfunction of the lower bowel tract. The porn industry is full of it. In 2005 Parliament did not raise the age of sex consent,and The Supreme Court Of Canada declared consenting 14 year old’s as adults. From 2005 to 2008 Canada was a legal destination for sex trafficking predators, and pedophiles by legalized human right.

    Righteous Canadian citizens Politically united across Canada to get Parliament to finally pass a Bill raising the age of sex consent to stop this exploitation in 2008,for a moment. We need those who say they are Christians to really be Christians politically ,where our nations laws are made. There was a time when schoolchildren prayed The Lord’s Prayer led by their teachers,because our majority respected Jesus , and politically organized to make sure politicians passed righteous Bills into law. Political apathy makes a Democratic Sodom and Gomorrah (Canada and The United States etc.)

  4. Conjecture, exaggeration, and bullshit combined with (big surprise)…bigotry. Not even worth responding to in detail. These tired arguments are so repetitive.

  5. Be careful what you legalize,as The so-called Human Rights Act, normalizes this behavior as a legalized human right to everyone starting with Kindergarteners. Adult schoolteachers and their homosexual activist friends form clubs to recruit impressionable children into unhealthy behaviors,as so-called human rights, and social justices. They argue that some Kindergarteners may be born homosexual naturally ,so therefore adult teachers,and homosexual activists will now nurture all the others to accept morbid homosexuality, as normal healthy behavior too.

    When now legalized homosexual behaviors which are expected to be embraced by all, are formally objected to by others, the homosexual’s cry Homophobic. Any formal objection is considered a hate crime. Name calling seems to be the acceptable norm for them, as a so-called human right and social justice. If the voting pubic keeps allowing morbidity to be imposed on schoolchildren, by right , perhaps all will accept homosexual advances and comply. The word Homophobic will be legally accepted to incriminate citizens for every homosexual’s desire. This is what Canada and The Secular Western World is becoming , because of the politically apathetic and indifferent voting public, who don’t hold their elected politicians accountable for the Bills they pass into Canadian Law. Secularism is not neutral as it dishonestly claims to be, but imposes it’s morbid morality as a legalized human right on everyone,including Kindergarteners. The dishonesty of Multiculturalism or Political Correction, which claims that all views are equally true beneficial, and thus to be embraced by Government,Law and Education is corrupting Western Civilization.

    Citizens, all rotten laws can be overturned by new Bills passed into law, by the politicians who you have elected to rule over you, and your Kindergarteners. We did this between 2005-2008, when Parliament did not raise the age of sex consent in 2005. Then in December of 2005 The Supreme Court Of Canada, declared consenting 14 year old’s as consenting adults. This made Canada a legal destination for Sex Trafficking Predators, and Pedophiles ,as a so-called human right.This so upset righteous Canadians that they united politically to force Parliament to pass a Bill into Law raising the age of sex consent, which they did in 2008. This finally stopped the legal exploitation of Canadian youth,for a moment.

    Look at the Homosexual Category data at, The Centers For Disease Control, or Public Health Agency Of Canada HIV and AIDS In Canada Surveillance Report. Regardless of ones Worldview, Homosexuality is not Healthy or Normal,and should not be normalized by adults to schoolchildren. Only outright evil people would normalize morbid perversion to schoolchildren,as a legalized so-called human right.

  6. Citizen..with all your blather, you keep saying outright falsehoods over and over. Homosexuality IS natural. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, or bisexuality either and it’s evidenced very clearly in our animal primate relatives. Hello. Bonobo monkeys in particular? Never mind the other 500+ species it’s found in. Oh that’s just irrelevant or deviant? Sure.

    People like you have an agenda that is not scientific or truly moral, it’s obviously faith-based or bigotry-driven. Usually both. Children aren’t ‘taught’ homosexual behavior, they discover it themselves and they many times will be deeply involved of their own free will before they even understand what the term “gay” means. I can attest to that in my OWN life as a child. I had completely consensual, exploratory and yet perfectly natural feelings as a 9-12 year old and zero hetero inclinations.

    So don’t post bullshit about what you want people to believe is the truth. To quote a movie, “you can’t handle the truth”!

    • From a strictly evolutionary perspective homosexuality in humans is clearly a disordered mating strategy with no reproductive benefit.

      Evidencing other species doesn’t help your case at all, as if evidencing widespread infectious disease in other animals somehow made it good for humans to contract tuberculosis.

  7. Homosexuals have an agenda,”The Homosexual Agenda” . It was laid out in Homosexual Newspapers before they implemented their political plan. Homosexual activists know this. Western political apathy has allowed them the legal access to recruit Kindergarteners, that they have always desired. This is truth and the ones who are allowed to pervert Canadian Children in schools are pure evil. I know legal professionals who have been sodomites since they were young, but this is a very unhealthy behavior. I have scientifically debated them to prove their disorder. If Paycheck wants perverts to have the last word, so be it.

  8. Hopeless. But it’s not people like you or Helene above I care about convincing they are wrong because you do not have open, unbiased or rational critical thinking skills so it’s worthless to teach you anything. I’d have as much luck with the Westboro group.

    Believe in your sky pixie you will never have a shred of evidence that he exists if you want. Hell, believe in pink unicorns and tinfoil hats if you want. But you aren’t going to win over the majority of people who have better sense and values that are rooted in reality, not ancient fables. Even a large portion of self-identifying Christians do not believe the extreme orthodox evangelical views. Thankfully so.

  9. Kendall, you are the one who is biased, and refuse to look at the scientific data confirming the morbidity of homosexuality,and adults like you normalizing this evil to impressionable schoolchildren. First you get Sodomy legalized and then have schoolteachers determining which children are homosexual,or transgendered and ought to be mutilated. The most hopeless people in Canada and The West are the teachers, laity, parents, and Priests which accommodate this political homosexual indoctrination of precious children. I have known and debated homosexuals and their parents,who condone their kids disorder,and then send them to law school to legalize their perversion, so others can be indoctrinated.

    In 2005 the majority in Parliament did not raise the age of sex concent, and the majority of the justices of The Supreme Court Of Canada declared consenting 14 year old’s as adults on December 22,2005,just three days before Christmas. The Canadian Human Rights Act made this legal activity a human right and social justice. This made Canada a legal destination for sex trafficking Predators and Pedophiles. We organized Righteous Canadians across our Canada from 2005-2008 to pressure our PM’s to pass a Bill into Law raising the age of sex consent. In 2008 they finally Passed the Bill raising the age of sex consent,and this stopped the sexual exploitation of Canadian youth as a human right for a moment. In a democracy the majority is responsible, and accountable to protect Canadian children from those who would pervert them. Kendal would have you follow his worldview.

  10. You continually prove yourself to choose selective data and ignore anything contrary to your flawed and insupportable arguments. Anyone with half a brain can see that you are being completely disingenuous.

    We RAISED the legal age of consent, and rightly so. Do some better research genius!

    “Age of consent reform in Canada
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Age of consent law in Canada refers to cultural and legal discussions in Canada regarding the age of consent. The age of consent in Canada was raised from 14 to 16 in May 2008.[1] For anal sex between unmarried partners, the age of consent remains 18. [2]

    In June 2006, the Canadian government proposed a bill to raise the age of consent from 14 to 16, while creating a close-in-age exemption for sex between 14-15 year olds and partners up to 5 years older, and keeping an existing close-in-age clause for sex between 12-13 year olds and partners up to 2 years older. The initiative also maintains a temporary exception for already existing marriages of 14 and 15 year olds, but forbids new marriages like these in the future.[3]”

  11. Anyway, I’ve had enough. As I said, it’s pointless debating with people who are not rational or unbiased in regards to facts and reality. Thankfully the majority of the world and it’s major leaders are overcoming the oppression of religion and allowing secular humanism to guide out moral ethics which is the only sensible way to go.

    Hold on to your stone age beliefs as long as you can. They are quickly becoming not only passe, but considered abhorrent as well they should.

  12. Have you heard of the Janissaries? At one time it struck fear in the hearts of men, women and children to hear that the Janissaries were coming. Now that is not a familiar term, but one that we might do well to learn. In The 1400’s, Janissaries was a name given to the children of Christians who were abducted by The Ottoman’s in The Byzantine Empire and from Constantinople in particular. These Janissaries had been taken as young children ,and “educated by adults” in the doctrines of Islam, and when they grew older they were taught the arts of war. In 1453 the Janissaries were part of an army of Mohammad II which surrounded Constantinople, the remaining bastion of Christian influence.

    The Ottomans had taken all of Byzantium except the Capital City. A siege of many weeks took place. Finally, in utter weariness the defenders were no longer able to defend their city, and the Ottomans came in. Mohammed II decided to see how well The Janissaries had been educated. The Janissaries once children of the Christians, now Islamic soldiers killed their former families.

    So what you say? Well there are Janissaries among us In our democratic Western Civilization today. This time they are not abducted by Ottomans, but by our so-called morally neutral Secular Governments, Courts, Public Schools and Universities. Students are taught the doctrines of atheism, Christlessnes, and the morbid immorality of Kinsey Sex Education which also normalizes homosexuality,and they have often gone back to oppose vehemently the teaching of their own parents. Many a parent has asked,” What has happened? ” Western schoolchildren have learned well from the imposed morality of so-called neutral secularism, as a legalized so-called human right.

    Just ask Dr. Chris Kempling what happens to a teacher,and to his family , who does not want to corrupt his students by normalizing homosexuality? Western political apathy has caused this,especially in The Edifices called Church. Kendall’s worldview ought to get you more politically involved. I hope it does.

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