10 thoughts on “Hell Unleased

  1. It is good what is said about the Blessed Sacraments and the praying of the Rosary, (enough cannot be said about this beautiful powerful prayer of Popes and Saints , and the prayer that could and would turn everything around in our hearts families and world …if we really prayed it as is instructed with the true heart of a child .) I must ask though, am I mistaken, but ss the “Echo of Mary”
    not a publication that derived from the false apparitions of the false mary from Medjugorje?

    A lot of what the Real Blessed Virgin and Queen Mary said at revealed at Fatima years ago is what is happening. Beware of false prophets is also a Word from Our Blessed Lord in end times. I Listen to what I know is true according to tradition. As far as the pope saying we are now in world war 111. What else could he say? Too bad he his hastening the harm to the Church with his modernist agenda.
    God will reveal to us His Truth through Our Blessed Virgin and Mother Mary IF we truly want to hear, and those who do will know for a long time that there was great oppression and something very wrong with the nu-church that has been propagated since the hijacking of a council that was
    supposed to protect all that has been taught down through the ages according to tradition and that cannot and may not be altered or changed in all matters of faith and morals in true Catholic doctrine. Pope Pius X warned about the horrors that are now upon us and that is why he said we should say the Oath against modernism. It is amazing how many are deceived in modernism and although they sway towards somethings true and rooted in true tradition they will not give up their foothold in somthing things from the modern church . It is called self-serving rebellion and it is rooted in pride and lack of humility and willful blindness because we when we do follow this, choose our way over God’s. This has caused great harm to Holy Mother Church and adds to the confusion already made manifest by enemies of the Church within and Her Walls and Sanctuary and outside. of it.
    How we will answer to Jesus for our own desire to fit in and be “accepted” by those who love themselves more than Him. This is what brings great sorrow to Our Blessed Mother as we choose love of man above The Holy Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
    PraY, Pray Pray Rosaries and do acts of penance and ask for the grace to do true contrition. The Holy Ghost is only too happy to answer if we truly want to humble our hearts and ask Him to show us all our pride and arrogance and offenses against Him in our blind stubborn pride if we really want to know. It is that simple. Truth is most of us still want to hang onto some of our own ways because we love those ways . Lord Help us see Your Truth and only listen to You, and help us to discern the fake voices intending to confuse and crowd You out. We ask only through Our Blessed Virgin and Mother Mary who will always lead us to You in Truth if we -again-truly seek You in everything rooted in tradition and passed down through the previous councils and that which is NOT to be altered or changed…lest we suffer great chastisement. Is that not what we are reaping now? It is from the disobedience of not heeding Our Blessed Virgin’s requests at Fatima and offending Our Lord by sheer outright false teaching disobedience to what He wanted and all the other attempts to lead the Faithful away from His Truth through freemasonry, sins of impurity and defilement against the human body, meant to be kept pure and chaste for Our Blessed Lord in HIs His Holy Spirit to reside in, and the evils of abortion, etc. ALL sins of man’s pride saying he knows better than God. They’re Still at it today with the scourge of disguising modernism. It should become as distasteful and putrid to the faithful as hell, and we should run from it and expose it and correct it with God’s beautiful, magnificent Truth rooted always and forever in tradition. One cannot compare the Latin Mass with what defilements and watered down , insults that take place in most modern Churches these days that do even greater harm to Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ in His Most Holy Sacraments and Liturgy(that has been so corrupted by enemies within. God is angry because of our disobedience…no doubt about it and He certainly has been patient. He watches as we make His and the Blessed Mother and Queen in Heaven…Mary, beside Him and His Sacred Heart in Heaven, and whose He has filled full of Grace cry tears of great sorrow…This is not good. Our Father…Hail Mary…Glory Be… St. Michael…St. Joseph protect The Holy Catholic Church and Traditional Family beginning with Jesus and Mary , whom Our Blessed God The Father in Heaven has appointed you adopted Father to look after. Please watch over Canada, and protect Her as God allows in HIs Will.Holy Saints and Angels and Holy Martyrs in Heaven keep us close in intercede as we pray for all the faithful departed and many prayers for all the Holy Souls in Purgatory as well, for the salvation of those who are lost and deceived those dying, those who have just died and for all those mourning and grieving. Stay close persevere in Holiness and always love Jesus and Mary and Joseph more than anything the world has to offer. Blessed Padre Pio pray for us also…you,who loved them so much and showed by example of the importance and graces attributed to a hearty that is truly contrite as well as what happens to the heart that is closed to to it. The Sacrament of Confession is Key to the Sacrament of the MOst Blessed Holy Eucharist. What awesome magnificent gifts the Lord in HIs unbelievable Love and True Mercy bestowed upon all those willing to die to self and come to Him the ONLY Way to Salvation and Eternity with Him Forever.

  2. Excellent article by Mark Mallett. If I may add to ‘Closing physical cracks’, get rid of your TV!! There is so much filth coming in through this tool of Satan, people are being brainwashed and corrupted without even knowing it. I only use mine now to watch religious videos and old movies.
    Also regarding the Medjugorje message which Mark quoted, this case is still under study by the Vatican. Please don’t condemn it before even the Church has had its say. I went there in 1995 and was immeasurably blessed.

    • God’s grace can shine through on those who sincerely seek Him out, even in diabolical situations. I have been shocked at how the faithful quote Our Lady of Medjugorje like it’s an approved apparition. As well, I have seen excellent Catholics get bent out of shape at the mere mention that these apparitions have not yet been approved. I have often wondered, if these apparitions are a deception, why would satan be allowing such good fruits to come of it?? The only thing I can think of is a final deception and to win the souls of formerly faithful people who become disobedient because they will not accept the ruling of Rome if they ever denounce the apparitions. I can understand how you would find that Mic’d up episode to be a little too strong. MV is a strong cup of coffee but I personally love him and his passion. I found Father Paul Nicholson’s video on these apparitions to be very enlightening. I hope you’ll consider watching it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdJMBielz8&autoplay=1. God bless!!!

  3. I am sorry you are wrong and not informed of the Truth either about Rome or the false apparitions there I suggest you watch the following and also get acquainted about what Rome decided about Medjugorje
    FW: Medjugorje Madness . (The Truth and Deception revealed re: the “business” of Medjugorge‏

    FW: Medjugorje Madness . (The Truth and Deception revealed re: the “business” of Medjugorge
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    Press your cursor on the red and white CMT tv square, then when the shows come up,cursor down again till till you see the title on the Vortex shows. Michael Voris interviews E. Michael Jones

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    Subject: Medjugorje Madness . (The Truth and Deception revealed re: the “business” of Medjugorje
    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:20:39 -0500

    Mic’d Up “Medjugorje Madness with E. Michael Jones” (Full show)
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    • Although I admire Michael Voris’ work, I saw that particular interview and it was very one-sided – Mr. Jones came off as virulently anti-Medjugorje without looking at all the facts. He misquoted the alleged messages among other things. There was no counter argument from the pro-Medjugorje side. To be fair you have to hear both sides. I have no idea where these misrepresentations about Medjugorje come from. All I know is that I went there myself, went to confession after a 23-year absence, went to Adoration, took part in the mass at St. James church, had a spiritual renewal which has stayed with me to this day. You are of course free to believe what you will about Medjugorje, all I ask is that you hear all sides in the matter. God bless, may His Will be done in this matter.

  4. Re: Medjugorje–one should not approve of it before Church has had its say, either.

    Re: Mark Mallett article–he captures perfectly the feeling of overall looming disaster that I have right now. On that global, macro-level scale, and also on a personal micro-level scale, there is an awful lot of pain, sickness, suffering, and anxiety in the world right now. The world is aching–and one is lucky who recognizes that this is the groaning of which St. Paul speaks (Rom 8:18 ff).

  5. Father George Rutler: Medjugorje cult “has become an industry from which many have made a lot of money”
    From Brantly Millegan at Aleteia:

    Author and pastor of the Church of St. Michael in Manhattan, Fr. George Rutler views the Medjugorje phenomenon overall very negatively and sees the letter as a step in the right direction. “I have had numerous encounters with proponents of the Medjugorje cult, almost of of which have been dismaying. Popes and others have been misrepresented as wholeheartedly endorsing it. It has become an industry from which many have made a lot of money. This statement of the CDF indicates at least solid reservations about the alleged apparitions.”

    “Benefits of grace accrued by pilgrims are testimony to the power of God to reward sincerity of heart through any devotion, bogus or not. I have also known of many disappointments, errors, and scandals attached to Medjugorje, not least of which is disobedience to the local Ordinary. It amazes me that after so many years, this cult endures despite the banality of the locutions, and while one of course defers to the final decision of the Church, one would not be surprised if a negative judgment on authenticity is rejected by fanatics.”

    Church historian Fr. C. John McCloskey has similar sentiments. “This letter is decades late but nonetheless very welcome. The Church is slow in these matters because it is eternal. We should all pray that the Vatican gives its final judgement on the matter soon and the followers of these ‘apparitions’ obey and do not cause a schism of sorts in the Church. The Year of Faith is about conversions and reversions to our Holy Faith!”

    James Likoudis, President Emeritus of Catholics United for the Faith, points to the continued disobedience of millions of Catholics against the judgement of the local bishops near Medjugorje and thinks that a positive judgement is highly unlikely. “The surprising statement on Medjugorje by the CDF to be communicated to the U.S. bishops appears to signal a negative Vatican judgment on the authenticity of the Marian apparitions in the former Yugoslavia. What is even more surprising is that the negative judgment of the two Bishops of Mostar as well as that of all the bishops of the Conference has not been heeded for many years by millions of Catholics who continue to give credibility to quite questionable apparitions of Our Lady.”

    “At any rate, without prejudging the final decision of the special Commission of Cardinals regarding Medjugorje, it is certainly difficult to believe that the Commission would reverse the judgments of Bishops who for years have investigated the matter on the spot and declared in effect, that ‘supernatural apparitions and revelations’ had not taken place. It would be quite astonishing were the judgment of the present Bishop of Mostar, actually be overturned. ‘The numerous absurd messages, insincerities, falsehoods, and disobedience associated with the events and ‘apparitions’ of Medjugorje from the very outset, all disprove any claims of authenticity.’ (Bishop Ratko Peric) In my opinion, the Vatican’s welcome stress on collegiality would hardly favor throwing orthodox bishops under the bus.”

    Read More at Aleteia

    Link:
    Vatican to U.S. Faithful: Stay Away from Pro-Medjugorje Events
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  6. Sorry I meant to post this. This is in response to whether so called good fruits vs. even bad fruits validate the chosen disobedience of the people who go against Church teaching
    Monday, February 17, 2014
    Medjugorje and Authority – Michael Voris
    So what’s the latest on the whole Medjugorje visions?

    By ChurchMilitant.TV

    To discuss the whole phenomenon of Medjugorje objectively it is necessary to make important distinctions between 1) responses to Medjugorje and 2) the Medjugorje “apparitions.”. Far too often responses are used to validate the “apparitions” themselves in a post hoc ergo propter hoc method of argumentation. That one thing follows another does not make one the cause of the other any more than one’s rising in the morning is the cause of subsequent world events.

    With Medjugorje we are dealing with two distinct phenomena: the claim of “apparitions” of the Mother of God and the responses to those claims. It is more than possible for wonderful fruits to be claimed from reading about the alleged “apparitions,” or making a pilgrimage to Medjugorje, and for these alleged “apparitions” to be totally fraudulent, deceptive and diabolical in origin. It’s also possible for those same good fruits to be the predictable consequences of a valid Marian apparition. The point is that no valid conclusions can be drawn from good fruits about the validity and reality of the alleged “apparitions.” They are separate issues that must be addressed separately.

    By far the most important truth to be determined is whether the alleged “apparitions” are, in fact, from the Mother of God Herself. Given the supernatural character of valid Marian apparitions, the final determination of the truth of the alleged “apparitions” at Medjugorje are beyond the capacity of science and human beings using natural methods. This means that even the one claiming to have had a Marian apparition is unable themselves to demonstrate the truth of their claims. All they can do is report what they have experienced. This experience is capable of being judged as hallucination, mental illness, innocent error, diabolical deception, some combination of the preceding, or completely valid. If the individual claiming to have had an “apparition” is unable to judge the validity of their experience themselves, then no combination of other people studying their experience is capable of anything more.

    Given the supernatural character of all alleged “apparitions,” only those charged with the responsibility of teaching, governing and sanctifying within the Catholic Church can render judgments regarding alleged supernatural phenomena. Shepherds must have the power and authority to protect their flocks from whatever may jeopardize their salvation, and it is to these shepherds that the validity of alleged supernatural “apparitions” must be submitted for judgment. Even though Church shepherds are always fallible human beings, they and their office are given whatever grace is necessary to teach, govern and sanctify their flocks. As fallible human beings, they may not always cooperate with divine grace. Even in such cases, however, the final judgment concerning the supernatural character of alleged “apparitions” is their decision alone and the only proper response to their judgments by the Catholic faithful is submissive obedience.

    What, then, has been the judgment of those charged with discerning the validity of the alleged “apparitions” at Medjugorje?

    Here is the most recent and comprehensive judgment of the Bishop of the Diocese of Mostar-Duvno, within which Medjugorje is located, Bishop +Ratko Peric, dated September 1, 2007:

    On the base of studies made so far, it cannot be affirmed that these matters concern supernatural apparitions or revelations. …

    30 chosen priests and physicians, working together in three Commissions for 10 years, in more than 30 meetings, dutifully and expertly investigated the events of Medjugorje and brought forth their judgement. And not one, but twenty bishops responsibly declared that there exists no proof that the events in Medjugorje concern supernatural apparitions. The believer who respects both principles: ratio et fides, therefore adheres to this criterion, convinced that the Church does not deceive. …

    The Church, from the local to supreme level, from the beginning to this very day, has clearly and constantly repeated: Non constat de supernaturalitate! This practically means no pilgrimages are allowed that would presuppose any supernatural character to the apparitions, there exists no shrine of the Madonna and there are no authentic messages, revelations nor true visions!

    The full statement of Bishop +Ratko Peric can be found on the diocesan web site at http://www.cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&vijest=101. It is a thorough and comprehensive report of the history of the phenomenon of Medjugorje and is far more than the statement of an individual bishop. Multiple studies are referenced, multiple decisions by multiple bishops are cited, even alleged but falsely attributed statements of support from Cardinal Ratzinger and Pope John Paul II are refuted.

    On the so-called supportive statements by Pope John Paul II, Cardinal Ratzinger, in April, 1998, responded in writing:

    “The only thing I can say regarding statements on Medjugorje ascribed to the Holy Father and myself is that they are complete invention.”

    Bishop +Ratko Peric quotes Cardinal Ratzinger after his election to the Papacy:

    “During my official visit to the Holy Father Benedict XVI, I not only expressed my doubts but also my disbelief in the ‘apparitions’ of Medjugorje. The Holy Father, who prior to his election was the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, replied with this thought: ‘We at the Congregation always asked ourselves how a believer could possibly accept as authentic, apparitions that occur every day for so many years?’ ”

    The alleged “apparitions” have been studied diligently for more than 30 years and have been judged consistently “Non constat de supernaturalitate!” i.e., not confirmed as of supernatural origin. This phrase occurs three times in the document on the diocesan web site.

    More recently, in October, 2013, the Apostolic Nuncio to the United States, +Carlo Maria Vigano, wrote to the General Secretary of the USCCB, Monsignor Ronny Jenkins, on behalf of the CDF, with instructions that his communication be distributed to every diocese in the United States:

    “[T]he Congregation [of the Doctrine of the Faith] has affirmed that, with regard to the credibility of the ‘apparitions’ in question, all should accept the declaration, dated 10 April 1991, from the Bishops of the former Republic of Yugoslavia, which asserts: ‘On the basis of the research that has been done, it is not possible to state that there were apparitions or supernatural revelations.’ It follows, therefore, that clerics and the faithful are not permitted to participate in meetings, conferences or public celebrations during which the credibility of such ‘apparitions’ would be taken for granted.”

    This letter can be viewed at http://tinyurl.com/m9st8a2.

    All of the above has been well and thoroughly documented in at least two books: The Medjugorje Deception: Queen of Peace, Ethnic Cleansing, Ruined Lives by Dr. E. Michael Jones [LINK] and Medjugorje Revisited: 30 Years of Visions or Religious Fraud? by Donal Foley [LINK]. Professor Howard Kainz summarizes everything in a much shorter and accessible presentation online: “What is Happening at Medjugorje” [LINK].

    These and many other books and essays documenting the history of the phenomenon of Medjugorje should be sufficient to provide discernment for faithful Catholics. The alleged “apparitions” have been judged not to be of supernatural origin. Therefore, no pilgrimages, conferences, retreats or lectures should be organized around any belief that these “apparitions” are valid and of supernatural origin. This is beyond dispute. Anyone who acts or speaks otherwise is guilty of sin against the Faith and of disobedience to due ecclesiastical and magisterial authority.

    Unfortunately, such disregard and disobedience to Church authority has become “Legion” and is now a veritable industry unto itself. Pilgrimages, conferences, books, magazines, blogs and web sites have erupted like mushrooms in response to the “apparitions” and “messages” from Medjugorje. This leads us to the necessary discussion of the second of the two distinctions that must be made when discussing the phenomenon that is Medjugorje: the response of the faithful and the good fruits that have flowed from rejecting what the Church has declared to be “Non constat de supernaturalitate!”
    Good fruits have been attributed to devotion to the Mother of God allegedly appearing at Medjugorje. How must we deal with that and what, if anything, does it have to do with the judgment of the Church? Can a “false apparition” produce good fruit? Apparently so, but it proves nothing about the validity of the judgment of the Church. All it proves is that God can bring good to those who seek Him with a sincere desire to find Him and do His Will, even when responding to an Angel of Light.

    Books, essays, short articles and blog postings can be and have been written documenting all the good fruits of Medjugorje. Since the Mic’d Up broadcast of February 12, 2014, Medjugorje Madness with E. Michael Jones (embedded video below), ChurchMilitant.TV has been inundated with emails from Catholics witnessing to the good fruits of Medjugorje in their own lives and those of others: stories of vocations to the priesthood and religious life, reversions to the Faith, healed families and marriages, growth in devotion to Our Blessed Mother and the Rosary, the emergence of a new or renewed sacramental and spiritual life, etc. etc. etc., all inspired by Medjugorje. Many have visited Medjugorje, and many have not. What they all have in common is the claim that their good experience validates Medjugorje, even though the Church has judged otherwise. It’s really a variation on “It can’t be wrong when it feels so right. Medjugorje was good for me. Therefore it is good.”

    Some even say this while acknowledging that the alleged “apparitions” might, indeed, be false!

    Let’s accept all these claims of good experiences and good fruits as valid and ignore, for the moment, that there are also claims of bad experience and bad fruits that could just as easily be advanced as evidence in judging the phenomenon of Medjugorje. Is an “argument from fruits” a valid argument?
    No. It is not. Few forms of logical argumentation are more vulnerable to subjectivity and rationalization than the “argument from fruits.” Precisely how does one define a “good fruit”? While a renewed sacramental and spiritual life, or a religious vocation, might seem to be irrefutably “good fruit,” is that always so? Is a religious vocation inspired by a “false apparition” an unambiguously good thing? Is a spiritual life nurtured by the “messages” of a “false apparition” good without qualification? Is a person who leaves a “bad marriage” to marry a fellow devotee of Medjugorje with whom they then have a “good marriage” an example of “good fruit”? Is “whatever makes me feel good about God and Our Blessed Mother” automatically a working of the Holy Spirit? What about those who leave the Catholic Church altogether to be fed in a more “nourishing” Protestant setting? Is that “good fruit”?

    No one can say that God isn’t at work striving to bring good out of evil. That is the very nature of God and the spiritual combat in which all souls are (or ought to be) engaged. But it is never permitted to choose or enable something evil so that God can bring good out of it. If the “apparitions” of Medjugorje have been judged false by the Church, which they have, then whatever “good fruit” is claimed for the phenomenon of Medjugorje must have some other explanation than the supernatural character of the “apparitions.” That explanation must be natural, or diabolical, or the power of God overcoming the forces of evil to bring about good. The “good fruit” of Medjugorje can only be judged to be a consequence of the grace of God IN SPITE OF those false apparitions! Knowing that the Church has judged these “apparitions” to be false means that attributing any credibility, much less devotion, to the “apparitions” themselves or the alleged “messages” is a defiant act of disobedience compatible with the “Non serviam!” of Satan himself when he fell.

    Bishop +Ratko Peric, in the statement on his diocesan web site referenced above, alludes to the inherent dangers of “bad fruit” attached to the Medjugorje phenomenon:

    Regarding Medjugorje, there exists a real danger that the Madonna and the Church could be privatized. People could start contriving a Madonna and a Church according to their own taste, perception and deception: by not submitting their reason as believers to the official Magisterium of the Church, but rather forcing the Church to follow and recognize their fantasy.

    When you depart from the clear guidance of the Church, you travel a very dangerous path. You have knocked down the walls of safety erected to protect you and enhance your freedom. You’re pretty much on your own in the land of private judgment and discernment.

    Consider another example of “good fruits” flowing from something not just false but evil: the Legionaries of Christ. The history of that religious order is replete with evidence of “good fruit,” even more than what is claimed for Medjugorje, but the entire enterprise was founded and and presided over by a moral monster, Fr. Macial Maciel [LINK]. It should be obvious that Satan can and does orchestrate “good fruit” while reaping less obvious but even greater “bad fruit” that satisfies his utilitarian calculus. We are limited in our ability to discern this utilitarian calculus, so we must trust the Church to guide us.

    The Unam Sanctam Catholicam blog [LINK] posted an excellent and thorough dismantling of the “argument from fruits” advanced by supporters of Medjugorje [LINK]. There is also an excellent Blog Talk Radio interview (0:00 – 33:00)[LINK] with a priest who has himself visited Medjugorje and confirmed the many “bad fruits” of the whole phenomenon.

    John V. Gerardi provides interesting insight into a “scheduled apparition” event he attended at Notre Dame in November, 2012: A Medjugorje Evening [LINK]. And, generally, there is the chilling example of Sister Magdalena of the Cross [LINK] who, for 40 years, deceived the world, including very high ranking prelates, with preternatural manifestations later admitted and judged to be diabolical in origin, although she died repentant and penitent. “Good fruits” cannot be ignored, but they are neither definitive nor determinative of the validity of an alleged apparition or other spiritual phenomenon. Only the Church can make that judgment and, in the case of Medjugorje, She has done so: “Non constat de supernaturalitate!”

    So what should we conclude from all this?

    In 1991, the Bishops responsible for investigating the phenomenon of Medjugorje said the following:

    On the base of studies made so far, it cannot be affirmed that these matters concern supernatural apparitions or revelations.

    Yet the gathering of the faithful from various parts of the world to Medjugorje, inspired by reasons of faith or other motives, require the pastoral attention and care, first of all, of the local Bishop and then of the other bishops with him, so that in Medjugorje and all connected with it, a healthy devotion towards the Blessed Virgin Mary according to the teachings of the Church may be promoted. The Bishops will also provide special liturgical and pastoral directives corresponding to this aim. At the same time, they will continue to study all the events of Medjugorje through their commissions …

    … [N]o pilgrimages are allowed that would presuppose any supernatural character to the apparitions, there exists no shrine of the Madonna, and there are no authentic messages, revelations nor true visions!

    This is the very citation noted in the October, 2013 letter from the Apostolic Nuncio of the United States to the General Secretary of the USCCB [LINK].

    It should be clear from this that the Church recognizes that there has been “good fruit” from the Medjugorje phenomenon but that it cannot and will not affirm the validity and supernatural character of the alleged “apparitions” which have inspired this “good fruit.” It is, therefore, permitted to claim both “good experience” and “good fruit” from Medjugorje but it is not permitted to project that upon the alleged “apparitions.” In a sense, it appears that the Church is willing to encourage whatever “good fruit” has come from the Medjugorje phenomenon while, at the same time, insisting on a distancing of this “good fruit” from the clearly false character of the “apparitions.”

    Somehow those devoted to Medjugorje must cooperate with this separation of their devotion from its false foundations. They must do this by 1) acknowledging and accepting the judgment and guidance of the Church, and 2) renouncing the supernatural character of phenomena such as “rosaries turned to gold” and “seeing a dancing sun.” Given the judgment of the Church, such preternatural phenomena must be understood as spiritual deceptions and fraudulent. Any other way forward is movement away from the heart of the Church and, therefore, God Himself and Our Blessed Mother.

    Almost all of the references cited above include abundant documentation of “bad fruits” as well as “good fruits.” These “bad fruits” should no more be ignored than the “good fruits.” The “good fruits” are evidence of the mercy and power of God, while the “bad fruits” confirm the nonsupernatural character of the events which have inspired the Medjugorje phenomenon. God is at work in Medjugorje, as He is everywhere, but not through the “seers” and their “apparitions.”

    Addendum: For a significantly comprehensive although not exhaustive history and analysis of the Medjugorje history and phenomenon, this article from EWTN [LINK] is excellent.

    Link:
    The Phenomenon of Medjugorje – A Response
    Related:
    Medjugorje Madness with Michael Voris & E. Michael Jones
    Medjugorje (EWTN)
    Pope Meets Head of Medjugorje Commission
    Pope Francis: “Our Lady… is not a postmaster, sending messages every day”
    Father George Rutler: Medjugorje cult “has become an industry from which many have made a lot of money”
    Medjugorje – Clerics and Faithful Not Permitted to Take Credibility of “Apparitions” for Granted (CDF)
    Medjugorje “visionary” Vicka flinches while in “ecstasy” (video)
    Father Mitch Pacwa: Lack of any Spiritual Depth to the Messages May be the Unraveling of Medjugorje
    Our Lady of Medjugorje?: Very Serious Counter-Signs – By Father Jay Scott Newman
    What is Happening at Medjugorje?
    Medjugorje Commission to Present Final Report by End of 2012
    Medjugorje : “The pope wants a decisive conclusion made” – Father Salvatore Perrella, CDF Expert
    Medjugorje Commission Priest: Christian Who Bases His Faith in Apparitions is Not a Christian Adult, It’s Not Mature

  7. Yes, I used to read the ‘messages’…took me awhile after some good arguments to disbelief it. Oh well, live, learn and grow. There is a lot of ‘conversions’ at Medjugorje, at least renewals, this is in spite of, not because of, and has to do with the faith of people and God! Anyway, we don’t have to believe it, we should hold it in suspect, and really.. why would God make ‘let’ ‘want’ Queen of Heaven do this. God works in miracles lets EVERYONE see the miracle upon a message(messages) from Him. This is chit chat for no reason. I can’t be bothered figuring out what errors in messages for faithful but it is a wierd phenomena no? Also suns spinning is for all, not some. Lourdes no one saw except seer, fatima everyone saw miracle– I had the same experience in Marmora- girl I was with saw sun dancing I saw nothing. (Does this mean I am bigger sinner than her- of course!) = not from God Man there is enough books from Saints where God is very intimate for long time, remember though its in conjunction with the personality; we are human; our mind is our spirit connected to our body, not just brain. Love you all, its a road to a mature faith in love knowing and accepting our limitations as God does. Don’t go chasing waterfalls like the song says.

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