“Gay marriage will lead us into anarchy”

…If they pass this gay marriage bill… what I know will happen if this does come forth is this will be the beginning of our country sliding toward, it’s a strong word, but anarchy.’..  (Source)

It’s too late.  This sucker’s going down. 

People have sold out to their lusts, and they are going to reap what they have sown.  They’ll all wake up one day, look around and see society collapsing before their very own eyes, and, like clueless fools, wonder just how they ended up in the hell-hole they created for themselves.  I’m starting to think more and more, however, that perhaps they are not so clueless.  I think they know what they are doing and they want everyone else to share in the hell that they themselves live in. 

No one going to hell wants to go alone.

But just like everything God has created…it’s not the end of the story.  We’ll rise from the ashes.

6 thoughts on ““Gay marriage will lead us into anarchy”

  1. Why are you against homosexuality? You do realize, don’t you, that homosexuality isn’t a choice and it can’t be changed, which means that being against homosexuality is like being against a person’s skin color or ethnicity, which are both also unchangeable and innate. I’m sure you think it’s hateful to be racist or xenophobic, so why do you think it’s somehow not hateful to be against homosexuality? (Oh, and I myself am bisexual, so I can tell you for a fact that I did not choose to be this way. Ask any other GLBT person and they’ll tell you the exact same thing.)

    Also, just because the Bible says that homosexuality is wrong doesn’t mean that you should believe that it’s wrong, you know. After all, the Bible is just a book, which was written, edited, revised, and translated by fallible, error-prone human beings, which means that it’s got to have at least one error in it, and it does. Have you ever actually looked at the Bible with a critical eye, instead of just blindly believing that it’s free of any sort of errors? Critical thinking isn’t a bad thing, you know. It’s certainly a lot safer and smarter than blind belief is.

    Also, it’s completely possible to be a Christian and have a relationship with God without being a Biblical literalist. After all, you can’t prove that your conservative Christian interpretation of the Bible is any more true than a liberal Christian’s interpretation of the Bible is. (And no, saying “it is true”–or anything close to that–doesn’t count as proof.) So why let your Biblical literalism get in the way of being loving towards gay people? Why not just follow Matthew 22:39, which Jesus himself said was one of the two most important rules in the entire Bible: “You must love your neighbor as yourself,” and just try to be as loving towards everyone as you possibly can, and try to strive for tolerance and equality in everything you do? Would it really be so hard for you to do that?

  2. Why are you against homosexuality?

    Because homosexuality is a lie against your body. Just like contraception is a lie against your body. All sterile sex is against the design of the sexual act created by God. Sodomy is simply a form of contraception.

    You do realize, don’t you, that homosexuality isn’t a choice and it can’t be changed,

    No, actually, I don’t concede that at all. And neither do peer-reviewed journals

    http://www.catholic-legate.com/index/gay_sex.html

    which means that being against homosexuality is like being against a person’s skin color or ethnicity, which are both also unchangeable and innate.

    No, you are simply begging the question. We know homosexual relations are wrong because they are against the natural sexual complementarity of men and women. A nut and a bolt make the machine work. If one nut tries to act like a bolt, the machine breaks down. Same thing with society. Sex must always be open to life. Contraceptive sex, of which homosexuality is a species, rejects this principle.

    I’m sure you think it’s hateful to be racist or xenophobic, so why do you think it’s somehow not hateful to be against homosexuality?

    Because racists generally don’t love Blacks or Jews. The great majority of people who oppose Gay “marriage” love the person but condemn the act. You can’t change your skin colour, but you can refrain from engaging in sodomy….just like an alcoholic can refrain from drinking.

    (Oh, and I myself am bisexual, so I can tell you for a fact that I did not choose to be this way. Ask any other GLBT person and they’ll tell you the exact same thing.)

    Sexual identity is a complex topic. It can be learned. One may even believe that one “did not choose it”. I have no doubt that many homosexuals did not choose their confused sexuality, but that is not the same as saying it’s normal or inherent or that we should just accept it as a society as being normal. The great majority of homosexuals today are victims themselves. Believe me, I don’t hate you.

    Also, just because the Bible says that homosexuality is wrong doesn’t mean that you should believe that it’s wrong, you know.

    Really? Why not? Is not 2,000 years of Christian civilization enough for you?

    After all, the Bible is just a book, which was written, edited, revised, and translated by fallible, error-prone human beings, which means that it’s got to have at least one error in it, and it does. Have you ever actually looked at the Bible with a critical eye, instead of just blindly believing that it’s free of any sort of errors? Critical thinking isn’t a bad thing, you know. It’s certainly a lot safer and smarter than blind belief is.

    Uh..yes I have. I did apologetics for 7 years. I know a little bit about the bible, but you don’t need the bible to know that homosexuality is wrong and disordered. You just need to know how a nut and a bolt work, and what sex is for.

    Also, it’s completely possible to be a Christian and have a relationship with God without being a Biblical literalist.

    I agree with you. I’m not a “literalist”. I’m Catholic. I belong to the Church Jesus Christ established as the “rock and pillar of truth” (Cf. 1 Tim 3:15).

    After all, you can’t prove that your conservative Christian interpretation of the Bible is any more true than a liberal Christian’s interpretation of the Bible is. (And no, saying “it is true”–or anything close to that–doesn’t count as proof.) So why let your Biblical literalism get in the way of being loving towards gay people?

    I can prove my interpretation is correct because my interpretation is based on 6000 years of Judeo Christian understanding of the homosexual act as depraved. If the bible means anything, it means something because there have always been eternal truths. Sex is not for entertainment. It has three dimensions: procreation, unity, and pleasure. Contraceptive sex falls on the first two points, and therefore it is beneath YOUR dignity.

    Why not just follow Matthew 22:39, which Jesus himself said was one of the two most important rules in the entire Bible: “You must love your neighbor as yourself,” and just try to be as loving towards everyone as you possibly can, and try to strive for tolerance and equality in everything you do? Would it really be so hard for you to do that?

    Let me ask you a question: if you truly love someone, are you always their “yes man”? Or does love compel you to say “no” sometimes?

  3. So you think that women should just have to be baby-making machines, and that humans should breed like rabbits, never being able to control how many kids they have, even if that means sinking into poverty? Have you thought your mindset through at all? Or do you just want this country to become even poorer than it already is, and to go from a recession into a full-blown depression because so many of its citizens can’t afford to support their families? (And don’t give me any of that “God will provide” nonsense. If that were really true, there wouldn’t be any poor people in this country at all.)

    Also, if homosexuality is so sinful and wrong, then how come many animals have been observed in homosexual relationships? Aren’t animals supposed to be incapable of sinning? And if the body isn’t made for homosexual sex, then why is the prostate gland (a sexual pleasure center in the male body) located inside the anus, in such a way that it can only be stimulated through anal sex or other sexual activity that involves the anus? God created us that way, didn’t he? So doesn’t that mean that God means for the anus to be used for sexual purposes?

    And just because Christianity is popular and old, that doesn’t mean that it’s true. Nor does it mean that it should be used for political gains. Politics and religion are not supposed to intertwine here in the US. If you want so badly to live in a country where the laws are based on religion, I suggest you move to Iran or Saudi Arabia. But don’t you dare try to turn this country into a third-world nation like those countries. You know, there’s a reason why there has never been a successful, prosperous country that was controlled by religion, and that’s because religion corrupts. I mean, heck, if religion doesn’t corrupt, then how do you explain all of the dozens and dozens of pedophile priests? Do you just think that that’s “God’s will” and that God meant for hundreds of innocent young boys to be molested by those priests?

    And what good does it do to say no to someone’s sexual orientation when that can’t even be changed, and when it wasn’t even a choice? All that does is make the person feel horrible about themselves. Or is that what you want? Do you want more and more homosexuals to end up killing themselves because they can’t take the self-hatred (and the hatred from society) any longer? And don’t you dare try to tell me that suicidal thoughts cannot spur from the hateful words of others. Verbal abuse is just as much of a form of abuse as physical abuse is. Words can and do hurt, no matter how much you want to deny that, and no matter how much you want to refuse to take responsibility for hurting others in that way.

  4. So you think that women should just have to be baby-making machines, and that humans should breed like rabbits, never being able to control how many kids they have, even if that means sinking into poverty? Have you thought your mindset through at all? Or do you just want this country to become even poorer than it already is, and to go from a recession into a full-blown depression because so many of its citizens can’t afford to support their families? (And don’t give me any of that “God will provide” nonsense. If that were really true, there wouldn’t be any poor people in this country at all.)

    “Baby-machines?” No. I have a better way: learn the natural cycles of men and women’s bodies and practice sexual self-control when required. Believe me, I practice what I preach. I have 4 daughters, and I have a good sex life. The problem here is that, like many areas of our culture, we refuse to accept a certain discipline in our lives. Discipline = happiness. Debauchery and licentiousness = sadness.

    Also, if homosexuality is so sinful and wrong, then how come many animals have been observed in homosexual relationships? Aren’t animals supposed to be incapable of sinning?

    All you are doing is proving the point. Homosexuality in animals is very rare. The exception does not make the rule, and it can hardly be classified as “animal nature”. It’s an abberation.

    http://www.narth.com/docs/animalmyth.html

    Moreover, humans are different than animals, but I suppose you don’t believe in that either.

    And if the body isn’t made for homosexual sex, then why is the prostate gland (a sexual pleasure center in the male body) located inside the anus, in such a way that it can only be stimulated through anal sex or other sexual activity that involves the anus? God created us that way, didn’t he? So doesn’t that mean that God means for the anus to be used for sexual purposes?

    Under that logic, every sort of physical stimulation can be justified because it also results in pleasure. Just because a human organ can cause pleasure doesn’t mean that that is its purpose. You can feel a mild tingly feeling getting bonked on the top of your head, but keep doing it and it will eventualy cause you serious harm. But if you want to argue the health merits of anal sex and the positive and negative side effects of this topic, I’d be happy to cite you all of the tragic evidence.

    And just because Christianity is popular and old, that doesn’t mean that it’s true.

    That’s partially true but not completely. Just because something is hip and fashionable doesn’t mean it’s true either. In fact, Christian civiliation has survived 2,000 years, in part because it banned sodomy. What does history tell us of civilizations which accepted homosexuality? Doesn’t longevity mean it “works” and doesn’t sexual debauchery and the collapse of civilizations prove that it does not work? If not, then what “proof” would you accept, if not sustainability and existence itself?

    Nor does it mean that it should be used for political gains. Politics and religion are not supposed to intertwine here in the US. If you want so badly to live in a country where the laws are based on religion, I suggest you move to Iran or Saudi Arabia.

    What does the Christian West have to do with Islam? You are beneficiary of the civilization you enjoy today, in part because our ancestors practiced some sexual self-restraint. Talk about biting that hand that feeds you.

    But don’t you dare try to turn this country into a third-world nation like those countries. You know, there’s a reason why there has never been a successful, prosperous country that was controlled by religion, and that’s because religion corrupts.

    Sorry, but get some history. The West is great because it has Christian ideals in every strata of its life: law, culture, art, politics — everywhere. It’s no coincidence that it’s starting to fall apart because of the abandonment of these principles.

    I mean, heck, if religion doesn’t corrupt, then how do you explain all of the dozens and dozens of pedophile priests? Do you just think that that’s “God’s will” and that God meant for hundreds of innocent young boys to be molested by those priests?

    Ask the homosexual predators that went after the young teens because in 85% of the cases, it was gay priests sodomizing young prepubescent boys. Thanks for proving my point.

    And what good does it do to say no to someone’s sexual orientation when that can’t even be changed, and when it wasn’t even a choice? All that does is make the person feel horrible about themselves. Or is that what you want? Do you want more and more homosexuals to end up killing themselves because they can’t take the self-hatred (and the hatred from society) any longer? And don’t you dare try to tell me that suicidal thoughts cannot spur from the hateful words of others. Verbal abuse is just as much of a form of abuse as physical abuse is. Words can and do hurt, no matter how much you want to deny that, and no matter how much you want to refuse to take responsibility for hurting others in that way.

    Hannah, I have former homosexual friends who have overcome their inclinations. The self-hatred is not principally (or even marginally for that matter) caused from all of us “gay-haters” out here. It comes from your own conscience. No amount of legal affirmation or political “yes” men is going to change the battle that you face. You can’t legislate your condition away.

    Besides, no one would dare utter an unkind word against homosexuals today or they would be put in jail or be in front of a human rights tribunal — at least here in Canada. If you want to really talk about hate and be honest about it, look in the mirror and ask yourself what you (and those in the homosexualist movement) truly feel about people like me. That’s the kind of hate we should be talking about.

    As St. Paul says: “Do you hate me because I tell you the truth”?

  5. Not discrimination but common sense and verifiable facts.

    Has anyone heard of The Public Health Agency of Canada’s HIV and AIDS Surveillance Report, which proves homosexuality is extremely unhealthy? What about Gay Bowel Syndrome which is endemic in the homosexual population, and proves sodomy to be also very unhealthy and morbid?

    Two homosexual scientists Dean Hammer and Simon La Vay claim to have discovered a homosexual gene, but no other scientist anywhere can repeat their experiments to prove them. Therefore this hype is BS meaning Bad Science. This BS is Spread to impressionable Citizens,and Public School Children by the popular media, Canadian Teachers Federations etc. as truth, and that is diabolical !

    Homosexual behavior is proven to be hazardous to ones health, and therefore ought not to be taught to impressionable Public School Children as just another healthy alternative lifestyle they can pursue.

    Our objection to this indoctrination is not homophobia, heterophobia, or discrimination of any kind, but common sense proven by verifiable scientific facts.
    Concerned Citizens and Parents do have every “right” to put an end to this morbid indoctrination which puts their children at risk.

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