Coming out of the closet

Fr. Robert Barron’s opinion of it starting at 5:22.

I was never really attracted to Fr. Barron’s teaching in the past.

What he said about “the closet” has affirmed my “spidey” sense.

Coming out of the Closet and living an open homosexual lifestyle is not a good thing, Father – not for those persons inflicted with the homosexual tendency, not for children, and not for society in general.

I think you mispoke, Father Barron.  Perhaps you should clarify your meaning.  And while you’re at it, tell us your opinion of civil unions.

5 thoughts on “Coming out of the closet

    • That’s not typically what I associate with “coming out of the closet” which is NORMALLY associated with a public act and all the attendant consequences of that. If what Fr. Barron meant was merely what you said, then there would be no problem, obviously. However, we do not normally associate a private admission with the disorder of same-sex attraction with “coming out of the closet”. “Coming out of the closet” is a politically-laden term seen to affirm the homosexual lifestyle in public. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, for now. That’s why I said he “mispoke”. That’s why he needs to clarify.

  1. I thiunk the use of the tehrm coming out of the closet was probably not the best phraseology, but the gist of what the video was about was spot-on.
    Without a doubt we have to try and find a way to get people who disagree to talk with one another again, instead of shouting or as he put it, talking past one another.

    How else are we supposed to get to the point where we will find an audience that is open to hearing us re=propose the gospel?

    Whether bwe lkike it it or not many homosexuals believe that we hate them, which closes the door to authentic conversation completely. Fr. Barron was again spot on with his point that we can love people for who they are, and that being good people does not mean we affirm everything someone does.

    The whole feeling that we hate people dealing with same sex attraction is caused partly by the loss of civility going on in our society. When one side starts shoutiung us down and calling us bigots often provokes an angry reaction from our side, which makes it easy for that impression to be created.
    the solution -and it will take a superhuman efffort of goodwill from all sides- is to learn how to listen to each other, talk things out anmd even iof we don’t agree, not to let anger get in the way. That’s when we say things we don’t mean or things that can be easily misinterpreted due to tone.

  2. I agree with most of the video, but he needs to clarify what he means about the more controversial part. It can leave people with the wrong impression, that there can be some sort of legal compromise.

  3. Fr. Barron seems to have clarified his position somewhat in the article below, which appeared the day after this post:

    His wording is still awkward in my view, but it seems orthodox:

    “Still another indication of the breakdown in moral argumentation is the sentimentalizing of the gay marriage issue. Over roughly the past twenty-five years, armies of gay people have come out of the closet, and this is indeed welcome. Repression, deception, and morbid self-reproach are never good things. The result of this coming out is that millions have recognized their brothers, sisters, aunts, cousins, uncles, and dear friends as gay. The homosexual person is no longer, accordingly, some strange and shadowy “other,” but someone I know to be a decent human being. This development, too, is nothing but positive. The man or woman with a homosexual orientation must always be loved and treated, in all circumstances, with the respect due to a child of God. Nevertheless, it does not follow that everything a decent person does or wants is necessarily decent. Without a convincing argument, we cannot simply say that whatever a generally kind and loving person chooses to do is, by the very nature of the thing, right.”

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