Catholic Legate to be represented on Coren’s Show

Back in my former life as a wanna-be Catholic Apologist, I used to run an Apologetic’s website (ahem…I still do…but it’s not as current as I would like it to be) called The Catholic Legate. Check it out. It’s a website devoted mostly to explaining and defending the Catholic Church’s doctrinal and moral teachings.

I got a call from one of Michael Coren’s assistants a few days ago, asking me if I (or someone I would recommend) would like to appear on the show with an Evangelical Protestant and a couple of Muslims to discuss the recent blowup (isn’t that an appropriate word?) over Benedict’s comments by the Muslim world. The show is scheduled to air on next Tuesday (Oct. 3). I won’t be going because of family and work committments. Besides, I would have to brush up on the history of Islam which is something I have really yet to study in depth. And, frankly, I simply don’t have the time right now, although admittedly, it would have been great exposure for either The Catholic Legate or Social Conservatives United (which ever label I chose to apply).

I ended up sending one of my staff at The Catholic Legate to do the show. Ryan Prong is a convert to the Catholic faith, and has been with me at the Legate for 4 years now. We talked today about the approach he should take on the show and some of the issues which needed to be addressed. Stuff like the limits to religious freedom, the persecution that Christians are currently experiencing in countries like Saudi Arabia, and the second class status of Christians in Muslim countries under Sharia law. Anyhow, I won’t spill the beans on how I think the show is going to go, but one thing is for sure, the Catholic side is not going to be represented by a marshmellow Academic. I advised Ryan to be polite, but aggressive with his Muslim opponents.

Tune into Crossroads TV to catch all the action on Tues. Oct. 3 at 6pm.

I asked one of my other colleagues at The Catholic Legate who specializes in Church History to give us all a quick primer on the history of Islam and its confrontations with the West. I figure since the liberal secularists clearly want to live under Islam because they keep killing off our future (contraception & abortion) and destroying foundations of society (like marriage), it would be good to get acquainted with the so-called religion of peace which the weak and liberal will be adopting or else.

I have left in his facial expressions 🙂

Okay, well …. In essence, Mohammad preach “violent evangelization” ever since he himself led the forces of the Arab city of Medina against his home town of Mecca, which had previously opposed him. It is said that Islam preaches “religious tolerance.” That is not so. What it preaches is tolerance for other monotheistic faiths (Judaism, Christianity, and Zoroastrianism) ONCE the adherents to these faiths are under Islamic rule. Before that time, the Islamic theology of the “world of war” applies. The Koran divides the world into two camps: The “world of Islam” (that is, the world that is in “submission’ [“islam’] to Allah and the teachings of Mohammad) and the “world of war” —that is, those parts of the world (esp. the Christian West) that have not yet been brought under Islamic dominion. As long as one is in the “world of war” (as opposed to the “world of Islam”), a Muslim is free to wage war against him, kill him, and take his possessions. …all with God’s blessing. And, if this Muslim should die while fighting in the “world of war” (that is, in the process of trying to extend the “world of Islam”), then he will go immediately to Paradise and spend all eternity having sexual orgasms with 70 black-eyed virgins.

Those are “the rules.” 🙂 And, agian, it is only once a Jew, or Christian, or Zoroastrian has been conquered and is under Muslim authority that their “imperfect” Islamic traditions are tolerated …and barely tolerated at that. This was not so much a religious teaching, as it was shrewd politics. For, when Islam first extended its control over Zoroastrian Persia and over Christian Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Anatolia, and N. Africa, the overwhelming majority of their subjects were non-Muslims. Thus, of course their religions were “tolerated,” because the first Muslims were not in a position to do otherwise.

In other words, they needed to consolidate their hold on these regiions, and the only way to do that was to be nice (or apparently nice) to the native majority. Once their hold was consolidated, however, the rights and privileges of Christians (and Zoroastrians in Persia) were slowly taken away. In this, the Muslims essentially made it so uncomfortable to live as a non-Muslim, that the natives eventually saw the “wisdom” of converting. Christians were taxed, Muslims were not. Christians had to do all of the unsavoy jobs, Muslims were above such things, etc. Essentially, non-Muslims were marginalized, second-class (or third-class) members of the society with very few rights of their own. And, even today, in Islamic countries, it is unlawful for Christians to worship openly (or even to ring church bells), and if someone converts to Christianity, they are (under Islamic law) to be executed. This is not “religious tolerance” in any sense of the word. In addition to this, Muslims believed in polygamy. Thus, whenever possible, they would take Christian wives. However, their offspring was not permitted to be Christian; and in this way they “out bred” the Christian majority, repopulating the regions with good Muslims. When Mohammad died (A.D. 633), most of the Arabian pennisula was under Islamic control. This was done in large part by military conquest, and by diplomacy backed up by military power. His successors (the first Caliphs), following his teaching to spread the religion by the sword (that is, to impose the “world of Islam” upon the “world of war”), set out to conquer their Zoroastrian and Christian neighbors –that is, the Persian and the Byzantine Empires, respectively. At this time, the Persians and the Byzantines had been fighting bitterly against each other for over a generation and had, essentially, exhausted themselves and their military and financial resources. Islam took advantage of this. They first swept up into Mesopotamia and Persia and crippled the Persian empire. By 636, they had conquered Damascus and separated Syria from the Christian Byzantine Empire. Soon after, in 637, they conquered Palestine and took Jerusalem away from the Christians. By 640, they had captured Alexandria and made Egypt too into an Islamic state, imposing their laws and traditions on these enormous native Christian populations. So, Syria, Palestine, and Egypt were no longer part of the Christian Roman Empire.

Then, in 658, the Christians caught a little break because Islam erupted into civil war over who should succeed to the Caliphate. The two contenders were the Sunnis and the Shiites, and Islam was divided from this point on.

Between A.D. 670 and 698, the Sunni Muslims wrestled N. Africa from the Byzantines and made it all the way to the straights of Gibraltar. In 711, the Muslims crossed over to Spain and conquered it, taking it away from the Visigoth Christian rulers. They continued to press their advantage and, in 732, crossed the mountains into France and tried to subdue France too. But, they were halted in their tracks by a Frankish-Romano army led by the Frankish king, Charles Martel, who defeated them at the Battle of Poitiers. I say “Frankish-Romano” because the Franks were forced to recruit the native Roman peasants as field army to deal with the Muslim host. This stops the Muslims advance in the extreme West.

At the same time, another Arab army tried to capture Constantinople, but they are thwarted by the Byzantine invention known as “Greek fire,” which burns the ships of their navy and forces them to retreat.

So, by the mid-700’s, the Muslims had conquered the entire Persian Empire, and had taken all of the Mediterranean regions of the Roman Empire, with the exception of Italy and Gaul in the West and Greece, the Balkans, and western Anatolia in the East.


Then, in the early 800’s, the north African Musims wrestled Sicily away from the Byzantines and began to advance up the Italian pennisula. At this point, Rome itself was seriously threatened; and in the reign of Pope John VIII (872-82), they sacked the Roman suburbs and succeeded in burning St. John Lateran cathedral, before they were driven off and eventually paid to go away.

At this point, the Arab rulers of Islam began to become more worldly and politically savvy (that is, corrupt). They were no longer really interested in subduing the “world of war” so much as consolidating all the lands that they already held. For, they held everything that was of any real material value. Italy and Northern Europe were really back-water regions with nothing great to offer, and Constantinople was too diffiult to conquer. So, from about 900 to the 1040’s, Islam gave it a rest.

However, meanwhile, something happened in Islam itself. The old Arab aristocracy was slowly giving way to their Turkish generals. The Turks were far more dynamic and warlike than the Arabs, and (as the Germans viewed the Romans) they considered the Arabs to be corrupt sissy-boys who did not deserve to rule.

Thus, by A.D. 1000, the Turks had taken over and revived the old Islamic desire to subdue the “world of war.” They conquered what few Byzantine provinces remained in Eastern Anatolia, then set their eyes on Christian Armenia. The King of Armenia asked the Byzantine Emperor for help, and the Byzantine Emperor led an immense army into Armenia to crush the Turks once and for all. Only, that’s not what happened. At the battle of Manzikert in 1047, the Byzantine army was slaughtered and the emperor was killed. Now everything that remained of the Eastern Christian empire (even Constantinople itself) was threatened. It was the successor of this Byzantine emperor who wrote to the Roman Pope and asked him to send Western armies to aid the Eastern Empire. The Pope who received this letter was Blessed Urban II –the Pope who called the first Crusade! And THAT’S how the Crusades came into being –as a long-overdue response to Islamic aggression, and when the Christian West really had no other choice.

So, from the 1090’s until the mid-1300’s, the Christians and the Turks battled over the Holy Land, with the Christian West evetually loosing ..not so much because the Turks were so great, but because of the Christians’ own in-fighting and inability to consolidate what they conquered (or re-conquered). When the last of the Crusading forces were finally driven out of the East, the Turks pressed their advantage and captured Cyprus and western Anatolia. They then cross the Bosphorus and captured modern-day Bulgaria, surrounding Constantinople. Then, in 1453, Constantinople itself fell to the Turks and became an Islamic city. These same Turks continued to press their advantage in the West, when they were stopped by the navy of the Catholic League at the Battle of LePanto, off Greece (1571) and at the gates of Vienna, Austria in the 17th Century. With these two events, the advance of Islam was ended until our present time. For, in WWII, the Turkish Empire that was halted at LePanto and Vienna finally fell (corrupted from within). Secular Britain and France divided up the Middle East, and evetually gave freedom to the Arab natives who had been dominated by the Turks (they also, with the US and UN gave Palestine to the Jews). These Arab natives, who were (and still are) poor peasants for the most part, yet who still remember their “glorious” Islamic past, now want to resurrect their jihad against the “world of war.” …and it is from this desire that Wahhabi Islam (the beliefs of the terrorists) comes. It is the same old godless cult that set its eyes on the Christian West 1,400 years ago.

So, that’s the story in a nutshell, John. Please let me know if you need more or if you need me to clarify anything. God bless- Mark

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