PROOF
ONE: We should consider Christ's commission to Peter.
This is often very embarrassing to Catholics, because Christ
commissioned Peter to become chief minister to the CIRCUMCISED,
not to uncircumcised Gentiles. "The gospel of the
CIRCUMCISION was unto Peter; (For He that wrought effectually in
Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty
in me toward the Gentiles:)" (Gal. 2:7-8). Here we have it
in the clearest of language. It was Paul, NOT Peter, who was
commissioned to be the chief Apostle to the Gentiles. And who was
it that wrote the Epistle to the ROMANS? It certainly WASN'T
Peter! "And when James, Cephas [Peter], and John, who seemed
to be pillars, perceived the grace [i.e., the gift or office]
that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right
hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they
unto the circumcision" (Gal. 2:9). Paul further mentioned
his special office as the Gentile Apostle in II Timothy 1:11:
"Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a
teacher of the Gentiles." PETER is NOWHERE called the
Apostle to the Gentiles! This precludes him from going to Rome to
become the head of a Gentile community.
Here, your
author makes a very silly mistake. Yes, Peter (with the rest of
the Twelve) was called to be an Apostle to the circumcised, not
specifically an Apostle to the Gentiles, which was the ministry
of St. Paul. However, Peter's Papal primacy in the
Church has nothing to do with his ministry as an Apostle.
Rather, the Papacy is an ADDITIONAL ministry which was held by
Peter IN ADDITION TO his office as an Apostle. An Apostle is
someone who is called to preach the Gospel as a first-hand
witness of Jesus Christ. In this, Peter (with the rest of
the Twelve) was called to focus primarily on the circumcized (the
Jews). However, his role as visible head and leader of the
Church (Christ's ENTIRE flock – John 21:15-19) was an additional,
EPISCOPAL ministry; and, in this, we see him serving both Jews
and Gentiles. Indeed, right there in Gal 2 (Gal 2:11-14), Paul
rebukes Peter for his failure to commune with both Gentiles and
well as Jews while Peter is presiding as the Bishop of Antioch
(the seat of his Papal ministry before his final sojourn in
Rome). If Peter's episcopal ministry was only to Jews
(if that's how Gal 2:7-8 is to be interpreted) then there would
be no reason for Paul to get upset at Peter in Gal
2:11-14.
What's more,
even as an Apostle, Peter (and, among the Twelve, ONLY Peter)
preached to and converted Gentiles as well as Jews.
Indeed, it was Peter who brought the FIRST Gentiles into the
Church (Cornelius and his household – Acts 10), and this was done
even before the start of Paul's Gentile ministry. This
point Peter makes very clear in Acts 15:7-11.
Therefore, one must be very careful to interpret Gal 2:7-8
correctly. Since Peter clearly preached to Gentiles
as well as Jews, and since Paul clearly preached to Jews as well
as Gentiles, it is clear that Gal 2:7-8 is not speaking in an
exclusive sense, but is merely referring to the general focus and
chief objective of their respective Apostolic ministries, nothing
more. Also, when it comes to the city-church of Rome, our
author is apparently ignorant of the fact that the Roman church
started out, not as a Gentile church at all, but as a colony of
Jewish house-churches founded by the JEWISH pilgrim converts on
the day of Pentecost (see Acts 2:9-10). It was to
this fledgling Jewish-Christian community in Rome that Peter fled
from King Herod Agrippa in Acts 12:17, and it was during this
first sojourn in Rome (A.D. 42-49) that Peter built up the church
of Rome as its first hands-on Apostle, converting both
Jews and Gentiles - that was, until he, and all other Jews, were
expelled from Rome in A.D. 49 by the Emperor Claudius (see Acts
18:2), which the Roman historian Seutonius tells us was because
of a riot over someone named "Chrestus" – clearly, a
mishearing of "Christus"
("Christ"). THIS is why, when in A.D. 56,
St. Paul writes to the Romans, he speaks to a very large Gentile
community WHICH HE (the Apostles to the Gentiles) HAD NO HAND IN
CONVERTING …because he had not visited Rome yet. (More on
this below.) And, in this same Roman Epistle, Paul
mentions numerous prominent JEWISH Christians in the church of
Rome, such as Priscilla and Aquila and the church in their
household (Rom 16:3, 16:5), and Andronicus and Junia (Rom 16:7),
who Paul tells us are his (Jewish) "relatives," and how
they were Christians BEFORE Paul …which means that they were
among the earliest converts in Jerusalem (again, Acts
2:9-10). So, properly understood, the Roman
church was not merely a Gentile church, but a church composed of both
Jews and Gentiles; and it was over this united Roman community
that Peter presided as bishop. So, despite what our
author says, we Catholics have nothing to be
"embarrassed" about at all. :-)
PROOF
TWO: Paul specifically told the Gentile Romans that HE
had been chosen to be their Apostle, not Peter. "I should be
the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the
gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be
acceptable" (Rom. 15:16). How clear! Paul had
the direct charge from Christ in this matter. He even further
relates in Romans 15:18 that it was Christ who had chosen him
"to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and
deed." PAUL Established the Only TRUE Church at Rome
during the apostolic era.
This is more
nonsense and a ridiculous distortion of what Paul says in his
Epistle to the Romans. Yes, writing to Christian
Gentiles IN Rome, Paul calls himself "Apostle to the
Gentiles" (e.g. Rom 11:13), which he was, and which is why
he is giving instruction to these Gentiles in Rome
too. However, the same Epistle makes it very clear
that Paul had, as yet, never visited Rome and had NOTHING TO DO
WITH CONVERTING ANY OF THE GENTILES THAT HE WRITES TO (e.g.
Romans 1:13-15, Romans 15:22-24). Paul also makes it
VERY clear that he claims no ***EPISCOPAL*** authority over these
Roman Gentiles or over the city-church of Rome. Rather, he
writes:
"Thus,
I aspire to proclaim the Gospel NOT where Christ has already
been named, so I do not build on another man's foundation,
but it is written: 'Those who have never been told of Him
shall see, and those who have never heard of Him shall
understand.' …I hope to SEE YOU IN PASSING AS I GO
TO SPAIN and to be SENT ON MY WAY THERE BY YOU, after I have
enjoyed being with you for a time." (Romans
15:20-24).
So, far from
claiming episcopal authority over the Gentiles of Rome, Paul
merely wants the Roman Christians to help him get to Spain so
that he can proclaim the Gospel to other Gentiles who have never
heard of Jesus Christ. As for the establishment of the
Roman church itself, Paul clearly says (in Rom 15:20) that he
does not wish to build on "another man's foundation"
– that is, on the work of the APOSTLE who DID establish the
city-church of Rome. Indeed, for anyone familiar with the
language of St. Paul, whenever he speaks of a
"foundation," he is always referring to the work of an
Apostle (e.g. 1 Corinth 3:10, Ephesians 2:19-20, etc.).
Ergo, any sensible person is forced to conclude that Rome – the
biggest and most important city IN THE WORLD at the time (with a
population of over a MILLION souls) – was evangelized by one of
the Apostles …and it wasn't St. Paul.
:-) So, who was it? Whose
"foundation" does Paul not wish to "build
upon" (Rom 15:20)??? Which Apostle, aside from
Paul, converted both Jews and Gentiles? All the
Scriptural evidence, and the universal witness of our ancient
Christian forefathers all say that it was the Apostle Peter,
which is the only reason why St. Paul would "pass over"
the important work of evangelizing Rome (targeting Spain
instead). Clearly, Rome (again, a city with over a million
souls and the most important city in the world!) was clearly in
capable, Apostolic hands.
PROOF
THREE: We are told by Paul himself that it was he – not
Peter who was going to officially found the Roman Church. "I
long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift,
to the end ye may be established" (Rom 1:11). Amazing!
The Church at Rome had not been ESTABLISHED officially even by 55
or 56 A.D. However, the Catholics would have us believe that
Peter had done this some ten years before – in the reign of
Claudius. What nonsense! Of course you understand that NEITHER
Peter nor Paul established the Catholic Church! But these proofs
are given to illustrate that it is utterly impossible for PETER
to have been in any way associated with ANY Church at Rome.
Oh?
:-) Well, I beg to differ, and I have already
illustrated the ridiculousness of this assertion
above. But, as for the other silly things which
our author says. First, the idea of 'imparting SOME spiritual
gift" (Rom 1:11) is hardly the same as saying "I'm
coming to establish you Romans as a church."
:-) Obviously, Paul never says anything like
that. Rather, all he's going to do is 'enjoy being with
[the Romans] for a time' (Rom 15:24) before going on to really
establish some churches in Spain. In this, of course, Paul
plans to preach among the Romans and to impart spiritual gifts to
them. But, this has nothing to do with establishing them as
a church. They are already a church. As for our
author's assertion that "NEITHER Peter nor Paul established
the Catholic Church!," this is simply a foolish thing to
say, since, as the name implies, the Catholic Church is the
UNIVERSAL Church as it was manifested in all the Apostle-founded
city-churches. And, as I have shown, Rome was one of
these. Lastly, if it is "nonsense" that
Peter was in Rome under Claudius, then show me one piece of
ancient evidence that places Peter somewhere else at the
time. In the narrative of Acts itself, Peter
disappears between A.D. 42, when he is forced to flee Palestine
(Acts 12:17), and A.D. 49 (Acts 15:7), where he mysteriously
re-emerges at the Council of Jerusalem. Where was he
during all this time? And, isn't it interesting that
Peter re-appears in the Acts narrative (Acts 15:7) in the very
same year that all the Jews were expelled from Rome under
Claudius? :-) Merely a wild
coincidence? I don't think so. Again, if
not Peter, what Apostle founded the Roman
city-church? It clearly wasn't Paul. So,
what vessel of authority was in place in Rome which led Paul to
pass-over the Capital of the Known World and focus his ministry
on Spain instead? Our author's position makes no
provision for this.
PROOF
FOUR: We find Paul not only wanting to establish the
Church at Rome, but he emphatically tells us that his policy was
NEVER to build upon another man's foundation. "Yea, so have
I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, LEST
I SHOULD BUILD UPON ANOTHER MAN'S FOUNDATION" (Rom.
15:20). If Peter had "founded" the Roman Church
some ten years before this statement, this represents a real
affront to Peter. This statement alone is proof that Peter had
never been in Rome before this time to "found" any
church. Peter Not in Rome
Clearly, our
author is not a very good student of Scripture. As I
already illustrated above, Romans 15:20 takes nothing away from
Peter's foundation of the Roman church. On the contrary, it
PROVES it! The "other man" is Peter
himself. Basically, Paul is saying that he makes no
claim to the church in the imperial Capital because Peter is
already its founder and shepherd. Otherwise, Paul's
decision to merely pass-through Rome on his way to Spain would
make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
PROOF
FIVE: At the end of Paul's Epistle to the Romans he
greets no fewer than 28 different individuals, but never mentions
Peter once! See Romans 16 – read the whole chapter!
Remember, Paul greeted these people in 55 or 56 A.D. Why didn't
he mention Peter? – Peter simply wasn't
there!
That is
correct. Peter wasn't there. At the time that
the Epistle to the Romans was written (c. A.D. 56), Peter was
presiding over the city-church of Antioch. He did not
return to Rome until the early 60's A.D. However, Rome was
still considered to be "Peter's church" because Peter
founded it, just as Paul continued to shepherd the city-churches
that he founded, even when he no longer resided there. See,
for example, 1 Corinth 4:14-17 where, though he is living in
Ephesus at the time (1 Corinth 16:8), Paul continued to shepherd
the Corinthian church and to serve as its actual
bishop. This was the situation with Rome at the time,
and the very reason why Paul took the opportunity to write and
offer instruction to the Gentiles living
there.
PROOF
SIX: Some four years after Paul wrote Romans, he was
conveyed as a prisoner to Rome in order to stand trial before
Caesar. When the Christian community in Rome heard of Paul's
arrival, they all went to meet him. "When THE brethren [of
Rome] heard of us, they came to meet us" (Acts 28:15).
Again, there is not a single mention of Peter among them. This
would have been extraordinary had Peter been in Rome, for Luke
always mentions by name important Apostles in his narration of
Acts. But he says nothing of Peter's meeting with Paul. Why?
Because Peter was not in Rome!
Actually, Peter
may well have been in Rome at this point. We don't actually
know either way. Yet, in any event, our author's
"example" is silly and unreasonable, since clearly Acts
28:15 is not saying that absolutely every Christian in Rome came
out to meet Paul! :-) At the time, this would have
consisted of thousands of people; and if that had happened, the
Roman soldiers guarding Paul would have reacted violently to the
onset of a literal mob! What's more, even if Peter was in
Rome at the time, it is highly unlikely that he himself would
come out to greet Paul, given that Peter too was marked for death
by his Jewish enemies – a situation which existed since Acts
12:17. This, by the way, is why Acts becomes very
silent about Peter after chapter 12 and why Paul seldom mentions
him directly in his Epistles; and, when he does, he calls him
things like "Kephas" ("Cephas")
instead.
PROOF
SEVEN: When Paul finally arrived at Rome, the first
thing he did was to summon "the chief of the Jews
together" (Acts 28:17) to whom he "expounded and
testified the kingdom of God" (Verse 23). But what is
amazing is that these chief Jewish elders claimed they knew very
little even about the basic teachings of Christ. All they knew
was that "as concerning this sect, we know that everywhere
it is spoken against" (Verse 22). Then Paul began to explain
to them the basic teachings of Christ on the Kingdom of God. Some
believed – the majority didn't. Now, what does all this
mean? It means that if Peter, who was himself a strongly partisan
Jew, had been preaching constantly in Rome for 14 long years
before this time, AND WAS STILL THERE – how could these Jewish
leaders have known so little about even the basic truths of
Christianity? This again is clear proof Peter had not been in
Rome prior to 59 A.D. No Mention of Peter in Paul's
Letters.
Here, again, our
author reveals his poor grasp of what Scripture specifically
says. First of all, one must keep in mind that these Jewish
leaders are recent immigrants to Rome. Remember, as even
Acts 18:2 tells us, Emperor Claudius had expelled all the Jews
from Rome back in A.D. 49. So, the old Jewish
rabbinical hierarchy (including Peter, by the way) was not
permitted to return during the days of Claudius. Now, given
that most Jewish rabbis were elderly men, it therefore follows
that most of them died in exile, and this present Jewish
establishment in Rome is composed of newcomers.
What's more, if you read what Acts 28:21-22 actually says, the
Jewish leaders in Rome DO NOT say that they are ignorant of 'the
basic teachings of Christ.' That is only our author's
"spin" on it. ;-) Rather, what the
Scripture itself says is that they are not familiar with the
POSITIONS OF PAUL – that is, of his "Gentile
Christianity." It reads:
"They
answered him, 'We have received no letters from Judea ABOUT YOU,
nor has any of the brothers arrived with a damaging report or
rumor ABOUT YOU. But, we should like to hear YOU PRESENT
YOUR VIEWS, for we KNOW that this sect is
denounced everywhere." So, the Roman Jewish leaders
were familiar with the Christian sect, which was, at the time,
primarily the JEWISH expression of Christianity – i.e., the
mainstream, and the form of Christianity which predominated in
Rome under Peter. However, what these Jews are
specifically interested in are the views of St. Paul – that is,
what he himself specifically teaches about
Christ. Here, one must keep in mind that,
within the context of Jewish scholarship, different
"rabbis" were expected to have different
views. Therefore, these Jews did not expect all
Apostles or Christian leaders to agree about the Gospel; and they
wanted to know what Paul specifically taught. What's
more, as we know from Acts 21:20-22, the rumor going around
among the Jews, both non-believing and Christian Jews alike, was
that Paul taught that everyone should abandon Moses and the Torah
(a misunderstanding of Paul's doctrine). So, THIS is
what the Roman Jews are talking about. THIS is what
they are unfamiliar with – that is, the specific views of Paul
and those of his Gentile followers. It is not that
they are unfamiliar with Christianity itself. Indeed,
non-believing Jews had far less of a problem with the Twelve and
the other Jewish Christians who still expressed their
Christianity within a Jewish cultural context. And,
at the time, this would have included most of the Christians in
Rome.
PROOF
EIGHT: After the rejection of the Jewish elders, Paul
remained in his own hired house for two years. During that time
he wrote Epistles to the Ephesians, the Philippians, the
Colossians, Philemon, and to the Hebrews. And while Paul mentions
others as being in Rome during that period, he nowhere mentions
Peter. The obvious reason is – the Apostle to the circumcision
wasn't there!
The obvious
reason is either that Peter wasn't there YET, or that Paul did
not wish to expose Peter to the same kind of danger which he
himself faced by calling attention to him or naming
him. Our author constantly fails to appreciate the
fact that the Church, at this time, was a persecuted institution
and that Peter himself, as the known "ring-leader" of
Christianity, was a wanted man. As for Paul's
Epistles, look, for example, at verses like Romans 15:25, which
reads …"I am going to Jerusalem to minister to the holy
ones." …or, 1 Corinth 16:3, which says …"…I shall
send those whom you have approved with letters of recommendation
to take your gracious gift to Jerusalem." Now, as Scripture
clearly tells us, at this time, the city-church of Jerusalem was
presided over by St. James (Acts 21:18, etc.). So,
why doesn't Paul mention him? Does Paul's failure to
mention James imply that James was not there?
:-) Of course not. Yet, throughout all of his
Epistles, Paul speaks of Jerusalem numerous times and never
mentions James presiding there. Indeed, since our
author believes that St. Paul wrote the Epistle to the Hebrews
(something which is debatable), why isn't James cited in that
Epistle??? Given that James was unquestionably the leader
of the "Jewish faction" within the Church.
But, neither James nor any Jewish-Christian leader is mentioned
in places like Hebrews 13:17, which directly speaks about
Jewish-Christian leadership. Ah, but why
not? Following our author's mode of thought, this
would imply that the Jewish-Christians did not know the names of
the leaders! :-) …which is obviously a ridiculous
assertion. As is his claim that Peter did not preside in
Rome simply because Paul does not tell us that.
Indeed, in what part of Ephesians, or Philippians, or Colossians,
or Philemon would Paul have an opportunity to mention who was
governing the Roman church at the time??? Clearly,
there is no opportunity within these Epistles (since none of them
address that point), and so Paul doesn't mention who is
shepherding the Roman church. However, SOMEONE clearly
was! ;-) So, why is our author so sure it
wasn't Peter?
PROOF
NINE: With the expiration of Paul's two years
imprisonment, he was released. But about four years later (near
65 A.D.), he was again sent back a prisoner to Rome. This time he
had to appear before the throne of Caesar and was sentenced to
die. Paul describes these circumstances at length in II
Timothy. In regard to his trial, notice what Paul said in
II Timothy 4:16. "At my first answer no man stood with me,
but all men [in Rome] forsook me: I pray God that it may not be
laid to their charge." This means, if we believe the
Catholics, that Peter forsook Paul, for they tell us Peter was
very much present at Rome during this time! Peter once denied
Christ, but that was before he was converted. To believe that
Peter was in Rome during Paul's trial, is untenable!
First of all,
Paul's final trial and execution would have been about A.D. 67,
not A.D. 65. As Edmundson proved, the persecutions of
Nero didn't go into effect until very late in A.D. 65, and the
deaths of the Apostles took place late into the persecution
itself. Secondly, our author (without any Biblical
evidence) speaks of a second trial of St. Paul and applies 2
Timothy to that ocassion. Well, needless to say, we
Catholics agree with him when it comes to a second trial; for we
know, not from Scripture, but from oral Apostolic Tradition, that
there was a second trial in which Paul was found guilty and
martyred along the Ostian Way outside Rome. Yet, this
should have no bearing on a "Scripture alone"
Protestant like our author, since the Bible itself never tells us
about this second trial or about the martyrdom of St.
Paul. Rather, if our author wishes to be true to his
"Scripture alone" values, he should conclude that the
story of Paul ends in Acts 28:30, while he was still under house
arrest in Rome. :-) So, on what basis does our
author argue otherwise? - unless, of course, he wishes to accept
the oral Tradition of the Catholic Church about Paul's second
trial and martyrdom. :-) And, if he's going to
do that, then why accept some parts of our oral Tradition and not
others? For, the same oral Tradition that says that Paul
was tried a second time and martyred in Rome also says that Peter
was Rome's bishop. :-) Thirdly, while we Catholics do
recognize that Paul was tried a second time and martyred, we do
not generally believe that 2 Tim applies to this ocassion, but
rather to the Apostle's first trial in Rome. And the
internal evidence of 2 Tim itself shows us how highly unlikely it
is that 2 Tim applies to the time of the Neroian
persecutions. For example, in 2 Tim 4:9, Paul tells Timothy
to try to join him. This is not exactly likely at a time
when an anti-Christian witch-hunt was taking place in Rome, in
which Timothy himself was likely to be killed because of
it. Also, in 2 Tim 4:11, Paul speaks as if his
ministry is still going on, requesting that Mark be sent to help
him and saying how he has sent Tychicus to Ephesus, etc…
He also, in v. 13, requests the papyrus rolls and parchments that
he left in Troas; and again, none of this is consistent with the
time of mass executions that signaled the deaths of Peter and
Paul, in which the entire Roman church was driven underground and
its leaders stripped of all human rights. Clearly, Paul's
Roman captors would not permit him to write and send out letters
(spreading the "dangerous Christian superstition")
during the Neroian persecution itself. So, in all
likelihood, 2 Tim does not apply to Paul's second imprisonment or
trial. And, lastly, even if we're going to accept that 2
Tim applies to Paul's second trial, then there is a very good
reason why Peter does not come to Paul's defense.
:-) It's because the Apostle Peter was already dead,
having been executed a few months before Paul. This, for
example, would be why Paul cites St. Linus – that is, Peter's
immediate successor as bishop of Rome in 2 Tim 4:21.
:-) However, as I said, 2 Tim probably doesn't
apply to this time and so that's probably not the reason why Paul
mentions Linus. Yet, all this aside, our author's
overall silliness is revealed by the simple realization that,
during the Neroian persecution itself, all Christians were marked
for death. So, any way you cut it, neither Peter nor any
other Christian could come to Paul's final defense, since they
were guilty of exactly the same "crime" that merited
Paul's execution. That should be self-evident, but is
apparently something our author never bothered to consider.
PROOF
TEN: The Apostle Paul distinctly informs us that Peter
was not in Rome in 65 A.D. – even though Catholics say he was.
Paul said: "Only Luke is with me" (II Tim. 4:11).
Wrong.
:-) Not only, as I showed, does 2 Tim most
likely not apply to A.D. 65 (but rather to Paul's first trial),
but in the Epistle itself, Paul speaks of "Prudens, Linus,
Claudia, and the brothers" – all of whom send greetings to
Timothy (2 Tim 4:21). Ergo, "with me" in 2
Tim 4:11 refers only to Paul's incarceration, not to his presence
in Rome itself. In other words, taken in context,
what Paul means is that, AMONG HIS DISCIPLES, only Luke is still
with him, whereas Tychicus has gone to Ephesus (v. 12), Demas to
Thessalonica (v. 10), Crescens to Galatia (v. 10) and Titus to
Dalmatia (v. 10). Luke is the only one among his
inner circle who remains to care for him in his captivity.
However, as we know from 2 Tim 4:21, Paul is clearly in contact
with a great many other members of the Roman church.
Ergo, once again, our author possesses a very poor appreciation
of what Scripture actually says and is quick to distort it to
suit his own ends. Sad.
PROOF
ELEVEN: Peter'ss death is foretold by Christ himself
(John 21:18-19.) "When you are old you will stretch out your
hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do
not want to go. Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by
which Peter would glorify God." Hmm, it sounds like Christ
himself said that Peter would die of old age.
Hummm, it sounds
to me like our author is, yet again, revealing his very limited
grasp of Scripture. Does "someone else will
stretch out your hands" sound like "dying of old
age" to you? :-) The reference is to
crucifixion. And, given that he died in A.D. 67,
which would make Peter about 70 years old at the time, Peter was
martyred in his old age. But, our author goes on…
Near
45 A.D., we find Peter being cast into prison at Jerusalem (Acts
12:3, 4). In 49 A.D., he was still in Jerusalem, this time
attending the Jerusalem Council.
This, once
again, is a very wrong and very faulty assumption on the part of
our author which does not take into account the historical
context of Acts 12. In Acts 12, for the first time since
Herod the Great, a Jewish king, Herod Agrippa, ruled over, not
only Judea, but also over Galilee, Samaria, Perea, Idumea,
Gaulatis, and the Decapolis – that is, the entire kingdom of
Herod the Great. What this meant was that Roman law
no longer directly applied to this region; and so the new client
king, Herod Agrippa, could execute people for religious
offenses. This he did by first killing St. James
bar-Zebedee (Acts 12:2). He was about to do the same with
Peter (Acts 12:3-4), when Peter was freed by the
angel. However, as a wanted man, it was simply
IMPOSSIBLE for Peter to remain ANYWHERE in Palestine, since Herod
Agrippa RULED IT ALL. What this meant was that Peter
could not go home to Galilee or anywhere else in Palestine, nor
could he go north to Syria, since that was ruled by Herod's
associate, the Roman procurator of Antioch – the Roman official
to whom Herod reported and who cooperated with Herod in regard to
extradition and other legal concerns. So, Peter had
to GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY. This is what Acts 12:17 means by
"another place." In other words, and
according to the universal testimony of the early Church, this
"other place" was Rome. And Peter got there, no
doubt, with the help of his most influential disciple, the Roman
centurion Cornelius who, as Acts 10:1 tells us, was a commander
in the Cohort ITALICA which was an auxilliary
unit of archers recruited from Rome itself. Having
escaped from Jerusalem, Peter's only route out of the country
would have been by sea; and that required going to Caesarea,
which was the only harbor that Palestine had at the time; and
Cornelius and his household were residents of
Caesarea. So, of course Peter was smuggled to
Rome. It would be the only logical choice. There, he
would be well out of Herod's grip; and he could also use
influential Christian contacts in Rome to appeal to the Emperor
against Herod – a mere client king. So, needless to
say, our author's suggestion that Peter remained in Jerusalem, or
even in Palestine itself after Acts 12:17 is unreasonable and
ridiculous.
Rather, Peter's
presence at the Council of Jerusalem in A.D. 49 HAS TO be
recognized as a RETURN to the Holy City, and, as I already
pointed out, the Council of Jerusalem took place in the very year
that Claudius expelled all the Jews (including Peter) from
Rome. This is not a coincidence. Rather, the
author of Acts (St. Luke) knew and expected his original readers
to understand the context of his narrative because most of them
had personally lived through it.
About
51 A.D., he was in Antioch of Syria where he got into differences
with Paul because he wouldn't sit or eat with Gentiles.
Strange that the "Roman bishop" would have nothing to
do with Gentiles in 51 A.D.!
a) As I already
pointed out, the church of Rome at the time had predominately
been a Jewish-Christian church, and now only had a remnant
Gentile population; and b) Peter could not oversee this Gentile
remnant directly in A.D. 51 because Claudius (who ruled until
A.D. 54) was still Emperor and did not permit ANY Jews in
Rome. Rather, as with Paul in 1 Corinth 4:14-16,
Peter governed his Gentile Roman flock REMOTELY from Antioch
itself; and this situation continued until the early 60's.
Later
in about 66 A.D., we find him in the city of Babylon among the
Jews (I Pet. 5:13).
Utter
nonsense. As all credible scholars recognize,
"Babylon" was the early Christian code-name for pagan
Rome: Rev 14:8, 16:19, 17:5, 18:2, 18:10, 18:21,
etc. The literal, Mesopotamian city of Babylon
was a tiny, half-ruined village in the 1st Century, and there
would be no reason for Peter to go there. What's more, in 1 Peter
2:17, Peter tells the Christians of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia,
Asia, and Bithynia (1 Peter 1:1) to honor "the
king." Here, the Greek word is "basileus,"
which refers to the Roman emperor Nero. However, if Peter
was writing from the literal, Mesopotamian village of Babylon,
this instruction would be both pointless and treasonous, since
Babylon, at the time, was not part of the Roman Empire at all,
but outside the influence of Rome and part of the PARTHIAN
Empire. :-) Clearly, the Parthians would not
appreciate one of their subjects (which Peter would be if he
lived there) telling Cappadocians to obey and honor the Emperor
of Rome, since Parthia had designs on Syria and Cappadocia and
had once directly ruled them a generation before.
Remember
that Peter was the Apostle to the CIRCUMCISED. Why was he in
Babylon? Because history shows that there were as many Jews in
the Mesopotamian areas in Christ's time as there were in
Palestine.
:-) There
were many Jews in Italy too (Romans 16:3-15).
:-) What's more, not one shred of ancient evidence
ever places Peter anywhere near Mesopotamia. This includes
the witness of all Eastern Churches, both Catholic (i.e.,
Chaledean Catholic, Melchite Catholic, Syrian Catholic,
Syro-Malankar Catholic, Armenian Catholic), Orthodox (i.e.,
Antiochian Orthodox), and non-Chalcedonian (i.e., Syrian
Monphysite, Armenian Monphysite, Asssyrian Nestorian) . For
goodness sake, not even the Mesopotamian Gnostics claimed any
association with Peter, but always spoke of him (as an enemy) in
the West! :-) The first person in history
to propose that the "Babylon" referred to in 1 Peter
5:13 might be the literal city was Desiderius Erasmus in the
16th Century, and he only presented it as a tongue-in-cheek
comment. ;-) Rather, universal witness places
Peter in Rome in the A.D. 60's, never in Mesopotamia …whereas
that region is strongly associated with the missionary work of
the Apostles Thomas, Bartholomew, Matthew, and Simon the Zealot,
who were also, by the way, Apostles to the CIRCUMCISED.
:-) So, if these other Apostles to the CIRCUMCISED were
taking care of Mesopotamia, why would Peter need to go
there????
It
is no wonder we find him in the East. Perhaps this is the reason
why scholars say Peter's writings are strongly Aramaic in flavor,
the type of Aramaic spoken in Babylon. Why of course! Peter was
used to their eastern dialect.
Oh, COME
ON! :-) As a native of Galilee, Peter grew up
speaking Aramaic! The comment above is our author's
silliest "point" yet.
At
the times the Catholics believe Peter was in Rome, The Bible
clearly shows he was elsewhere.
Balderdash.
The Bible shows nothing of the sort.
As
previously mentioned there are many supposed historical accounts
of Peter in Rome but none of them are first hand accounts and
should not be put above the many accounts of The Bible.
:-)
And how do you know that the Bible is a first-hand
account??? You know that it is because you BELIEVE
the witness of the early Christians who told us that it
is. Well, needless to say, these SAME early
Christians – the very ones who passed the Bible down to you
– universally declared that Peter was bishop in
Rome. So, if you're going to deny what these early
Christians had to say on that subject, then you might was well
question the reliability of the Bible as well and doubt that the
Apostle Matthew wrote the Gospel of Matthew, etc., etc.,
etc. All is based on the oral witness of the earliest
Christians; and if their witness is invalid, then so is the Bible
itself.
We
know from The Bible that the apostle Peter was not in Rome.
Non sequitur and
simply incorrect.
There
was a Simon Peter in Rome after the death of Christ but it is not
the apostle Peter that was a fisherman from Jerusalem. Who
is this Simon Peter that was in Rome during the middle of the
first century? This is how the great false Church of Rome got its
start; along with the first leader Simon Peter not the apostle
Peter.
Our author's
following article about Simon Magus is equally full of historical
and Scriptural distortions and other flights of
fantasy. If the Apostle Peter, as our author
asserts, was never in Rome 'because the Bible doesn't directly
mention it' (ignoring 1 Peter 5:13 of course), then our author
has absolutely no basis for asserting that Simon Magus was ever
in Rome either, since that too is never directly addressed in the
Bible. Either our author is wed to his concept of
"Bible alone" or he is not. He may
not, like John Kerry, change his criteria whenever it suits his
argument. If the oral Tradition about Simon Magus in Rome
is to be accepted, then so is the oral Tradition about the
Apostle Peter being the Bishop of Rome and refuting Simon Magus
in Rome itself …for it is all part of the SAME Catholic
Tradition. Our author cannot pick and choose from Catholic
Tradition as he sees fit, but must take either all of it or none
of it. That would be the only honest Christian
approach. However, our author seems to care little about
scholarly or Christian honesty.