It is obvious that
you are totally unfamiliar with the Septuagint and its history
among both Jews and Christians. Your comments derive from an
apologetic style that predates the 1950's. The idea that the Jews
had fixed the Canon in the period of the Persian empire was
demolished in the 19th Century! You need to read some more modern
books. I suggest that you look at the following books written by
modern Protestants:
The Septuagint and Christian Scripture by Martin Hengel
Invitation to the Septuagint by Karen H. Jobes, Moises Silva
The Old Testament of the Early Church by Albert C. Sundberg, Jr.
And its online sequel:
"The Old Testament of the Early Church" Revisited by Albert C. Sundberg, Jr.
Biblical Theology of the Old and New Testaments: Theological Reflection on the Christian
Bible by Brevard S. Childs – {The chapter on the OT Canons is the most
unique and innovative thing I have read on the subject in the
last 10 years.}
The Formation of the Christian Biblical Canon by Lee Martin McDonald
Early Christianity and its Sacred Literature by Lee Martin McDonald & Stanley Porter
THE CANON DEBATE Edited by Lee M. McDonald & James Sanders {To be published in July 2002}
How The Bible Came To Be by John Barton
Holy Writings: Sacred Text by John Barton
This is just the
tip of the iceberg. I am afraid that you have a lot to learn
before you can talk intelligently on this subject. The bottom
line is that there was no Jewish Bible canon (i.e., closed list)
until the end of the 1st Century AD which is well into the
Christian era. Had there been, then any attempt at composing a
New Testament would have been virtually impossible. The Church
alone discerned and formed its own Canon independently of the
Jews. There was some overlap, but the Christian Old Testament and
the Jewish Bible were never identical either in content or in
structure. Anti-historical delusions (such as the stuff you put
out) can no longer be supported by the evidence.
The most
"up-to-date" and exhaustive book on the OT canon is
Roger Beckwith's volume "The OT Canon of the NT
Church," Eerdmans, ca. 1985.
A 17 year old
piece of fundamentalist propaganda. I read that book in the 80's
and it was nonsense then. It has been totally refuted today. The
books I listed for you were primarily written in the 1990's many
of which respond directly (and negatively) to Beckwith's thesis.
John Barton's books in particular were written with the
refutation of Beckwith in mind. Barton's book "Oracles of
God" was written circa Beckwith's and shows the consensus
opinion of REAL biblical scholars. Martin Hengel's book is the
most recent work on the Septuagint and it shows how silly
Beckwith's views really were. I might also recommend James
Vanderkam's "From Revelation to Canon:
Studies in the Hebrew Bible & Second Temple Literature." Dr. Vanderkam is
THE American expert on Qumran. He makes mince meat out of
Beckwith's thesis.
Roger Beckwith is
well known as a narrow-minded fundamentalist and his work is not
taken seriously by real academics. I think that his book is an
excellent compilation of data from Jewish sources, but his
analyses are strongly biased by his rigid Deformation
allegiances. The only thing his book is good for is as a resource
for quotations on this subject. Beckwith also makes a number of
ludicrous claims which contradict the scholarly consensus on this
period all in the service of prot wishful thinking. There is no
evidence for Beckwith's claim that even the Saduccees submitted
to the Tanach at any time and both the NT and the Talmud
contradict him. Beckwith claims that the Samaritan community was
founded in the 200s BC and that their holding to the Pentateuch
only is not a preservation of the pre-exilic situation, but a
modern innovation. The experts on the Samaritans find that their
community goes back at least to the 400s if not later. Hence
their tradition of holding only to the Torah is not traceable to
the period that Beckwith's thesis requires. Finally, there is no
evidence of any official Jewish pronouncement on the Biblical
canon dating from the 2nd Century BC when Beckwith claims the
Canon was "closed".
All of his
evidence for this is circumstantial. In the end, Beckwith himself
admits that he cannot tell us who closed the canon, when, where,
why, or by what authority. I agree with Beckwith that the Tanach
was being formed in the period he specifies. I think it was in
reaction to the Selucid attempt to destroy all of the Jewish Holy
books prior to the Maccabeean revolt. A collection approximating
the Tanach was circulating during this time, but here were
several other forms as well such as we see in the Qumran
collections and the LXX which were held in high esteem among
Jews. There is no evidence of any "preferred" version
or collection among the Jews. It is also worth noting that the
Tanach order of the biblical books was only one of many extant in
Jewish history. The 12th Century text of the Leningrad Codex does
not use the usual order of the Tanach and places Chronicles at
the beginning of the Ketubim. Earlier Tanach collections also
varied the order. The LXX apparently never followed the Tanach
order, though some later Greek Jewish Bibles did. Since the LXX
was compiled earlier than the 2nd Century BC, it is not
surprising that the order of the collection is not the same as in
the later Tanach.
I direct your
attention to Dougherty – of Yale – who as long ago as 1928....I
have read closely and carefully Swete's "Intro. to the OT in
Greek," the intros..., etc.
Like I said, your
knowledge is all pre-1950's. You are quoting all of the outdated
protestant propaganda from the period before Qumran while
ignoring the explosion of research in the 60's, 70's, and 80's. I
am sorry, but an educated man has to read more modern material.
Your views on a "persian" source for the OT Canon are
passé and have been so for over 100 years. The history of the
Septuagint in the Church is best studied using Hengel's book
which I highly recommend to you. It has only just been published
in English. Moises Silva's book on the Septuagint will also be
very helpful in updating you. It came out last year.
I can read Hebrew,
Greek, Aramaic, Syriac, and Latin, and studied at one time or
another every Semitic language except Ethiopic and Eblaic.
Then you can read
English too, I assume? So read the books I recommended. Throw in
something by Emmanuel Tov for the Jewish perspective on LXX. I am
sorry if you think I was condescending to you, but quoting
outdated nonsense as if it were valid scholarship is inexcusable.
The Jewish Canon of the Bible was in flux at the time of Christ
and remained so into the mid 4th Century. The earliest moves to
canonize the Tanach were post 70AD and were specifically designed
to exclude the New Testament and other Christian material.
Meanwhile, the Hebrew copy of Sirach from the Cairo Genizah uses
all of the scribal conventions reserved by the Jews for a
biblical text yet it dates form the 2nd Century AD. So much for
Beckwith's thesis.The long OT canon used by the Catholic Church
can be documented to the late 1st and early 2nd Centuries.
Sundberg documented this at Harvard in the late 1950's. His
recent paper to which I referred is on the web and in it he
reinforces his earlier conclusions. All of my sources are up to
date and EVERY ONE OF THEM is from Protestants. And, as I said,
this is the tip of the iceberg. You need to start reading a
little more widely.